ACCA (again sorry!)
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Hi Guys,
First post in a while!Thought it was time I started on the Acca’s. I feel the best method for me personally is the Lay all at the start method, I presume the no lay method is probably more beneficial, however guess i’m just a wimp!
Result Bookmaker Exchange Your Profit
All win (24%) £68 -£40 £28
1 lose (40%) -£5 -£7.50 -£12.50
2 lose (26%) -£25 £25 £0
3 lose (9%) -£25 £57.50 £32.50
4 lose (1%) -£25 £90 £65
All lose (0.1%) -£25 £122.50 £97.50I found the above online, this is based off a £25 stake and back and lay odds of 1.3/1.32. I assume this is correct?
Any tips would be appreciated!
Thanks+0February 16, 2017 at 12:58 pm
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New to matched betting?
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Learning the fundamentals takes 10-15 minutes and you’ll make £15 in the process.
Worth pointing out that you should opt into the William Hill offer club RyanB, if you haven’t already (they give you a £5 free bet once a week if you bet at least £20 on football fourfold+ accas).
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I know now what you mean’t FOG about not laying all the teams straight away.
Currently, Celtic & Chelsea have won, with City failing to win. This leaves me with Utd & Barca playing tomorrow. With already one leg down and winning £48.65 on the City lay if I hadn’t of already laid Utd & Barca I would also be getting a £50 free bet should they both win. If they both lost or one of them lost I wouldn’t get the £50 free bet however, the initial £50 stake would be almost recouped by the City lay…Think i’ll have to plan it better next time.
As it stands I think i’ll lose £8 if both Barca & City win (if I only get £40 from the £50 free bet) – due to me having liabilities of £16 & £5.55, i’m aware I could back them to reverse this but I think i’ll leave this for now.
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Didnt know that burger that would help give an additional £4 boost each time – cheers.
+0Re. US Sports ACCA’s – betway do one which is OK. £50 FB w/ odds min 1.5 per leg but only 4 legs as opposed to 5 which made it EV+ when I did them. There were more options before the football season finished though not so many games now.
188bet is decent if laying sequentially. Odds are usually pretty good and usually easy to extract 90% from a FB using their enhanced markets on football matches (these don’t appear in oddsmonkey etc though).
William Hill is the best insurance offer by far IMO. I was gubbed last week. ?
Thanks to FOG for pointing out sportingbet. I hadn’t realised this was any league, any price so had discounted it. One winning ACCA and one FB today!
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Well it looks like on my first ACCA exactly one team has lost (Man City), shame as this actually gave me a small loss, but its all a learning curve!
I’ve also noticed Paddy Power & Ladbrokes ACCA Insurance offers are also in store? Therefore surely you could always make money off matched betting provided you lived near enough to a shop and didn’t mind doing it that way?
+0Presumably not a good weekend for anybody not laying accas out there! Burnley / Man City and PSG all screwing up.
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Not the greatest but didn’t break the bank. I had 9 acca’s on one site for £225 total staked. I won 1, I got the free bet on 4 and nothing on the other 4. So total return was £140 cash plus £100 in free bets. I suppose about break even.
PSG failing to win hit me the hardest. I would have had an extra cash win £90 and an extra £50 in free bets if they got the win which would have made it a nice weekend.
Its normal enough a few hot favourites failing to win. I also had Legia Warsaw 2/9 favourites annihiliated 3-1 at home by 2nd from the bottom 10-men Ruch Chorzow, and Fenerbahce odds on at 2/5 played out a 0-0 draw. Happy to emerge about even after all that.
+0Hi guys,
I’m looking to start getting into ACCAa and I understand the sequential lay method. But when talking about lay all at the start, what’s the lay amount for each game?
Also there’s always mention about seeing if there is a value on the back bet from the bookie in comparison the exchange. I’m not sure what exactly that means. Is it a case of the bookie back bet being similar with the exchange back bet?
Appreciate the advise.
+0If you’re starting on accas, I would recommend signing up to oddsmonkey – very helpful tools – 4 options of no lay, lay at start, sequential lay, sequential lock in.
+0Is it worth it for £15 a month? Not sure I want to start paying money for something that I’m not sure I’ll get any value from.
I understand the risks of no lay method and I know that’s not for me just yet. I though I understood the sequential method but now I’m unsure with what sequential lay and sequential lock in is? And the other one was how would I calculate the lay amount for each leg of the acca?
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Just do lay all at start method like im doing. Simply bet x amount on the acca and then lay each game individually using the qualifying bet calculator as you usually would. This method is not guaranteed profit, but it is long term.
+0Ok I think I get it. So if the acca actually won, it would be a loss of whatever the total QL is from all the lay bets?
And the whole thing about understanding if there’s value on the back bet at the bookie in comparison to the exchange, does that mean that the back bets at the bookie should be similar to the back bets at the exchange?
Cheers
+0@J – oddsmonkey does all the calculations for you, for all strategies. With lock in, you’d expect to make about £5 from £25 offers, and £10 from £50. With Wills, Lads, Coral, Fred and Paddy, you’d expect to make around £35 / week (doing one acca on each site per week), so well worth the £15 / month in my opinion. And of course, all risk free (apart from postponed legs, which you have to try and manually rescue)
I realise there are much more profitable methods out there (as discussed on the other thread), but for somebody just getting into them, I would say this is a good starting point.
+0J. If you read through this thread then there’s enough info for what you need on lay all. Including Ryan’s worked example.
+0Thanks bobster. I might give it a go for a month and see how it goes. I’ve managed to get access to the free acca guides so I now understand the different methods.
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