Best Way To Deal With Rule 4 Deductions
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Hi guys,
Great site here – I’m new to this matched betting business and it has provided me with a great deal of useful information. I’ve worked through most of the straightforward free bet offers and am now getting onto the risk-free variety.
My question is about Rule 4, reduction factors, deductions etc. Is there a best time when it’s safest to place a bet on a horse? If you place it an hour or two before the race do you feel this is usually sufficient, that most horses who will not run will have been declared by then? Or perhaps it is just random.
I’m aware of the standard table which shows how much DF will be applied based on the odds of the non runner – I understand the bookmakers use this. How about smarkets – would they use this or do they calculate it themselves?
In general do you find the way that the reductions are applied to your back and lay bets are fairly consistent, or does it usually require an intervention to even the outcomes?
Sorry for all the questions, would really appreciate your experience with this.
Cheers,
Simon
+0August 1, 2016 at 8:31 pm
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I don’t know enough to give you a proper answer, but in my experience Rule 4 deductions happen on Smarkets as they do on the bookies, and so you end up with the odds moving the same on both. Could be (very) wrong though.
+0Not sure how Smarkets operate, but I think Betfair applies a reduction factor to all horses, based on their odds and the volume of money staked on said horse. You can see what this reduction factor is by clicking the graph on any given race page and selecting the horse you are interested in.
By and large if Rule 4 applies then yes, you will end up having your back and lay odds adjusted by ‘roughly’ the same amount. It only actually becomes an issue though if the horse wins – if not the amount you have laid the horse for will not change, it is the odds you would have paid out on that would have changed.
The above assumes that Rule 4 kicks in after you have both backed and layed a horse… where Rule 4 is more of a thought is when you might have backed a horse but not yet layed it (e.g. perhaps you take a price boost and are waiting for the lay odds to fall back to pre-boost levels…) In those situations you will need to calculate your “new” back odds in order to lay an appropriate amount.
+0Thanks for the help guys, think I’m a bit clearer on the whole thing now!
+0No expert on this rule 4 deductions, but having being matched betting for almost a year I have only had this applied to 1 of my races which was a couple of weeks a go. The horse won and I noticed my return was halved. At first I thought I was on for a big loss but then noticed the odds at Smarkets were adjusted and overall I was in the same position anyway (maybe a £1 or so down) but nothing to worry about in the end.
Before starting matched betting I read up quite a bit, and the rule 4 from what people were making out was a real issue and could cost you lots, but like I say only been hit once with it and cost me next to nothing.
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