Gubbed….Again.
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Well, this has made me realise how totally random it is to getting restricted. I have had my William Hill account for almost a year and absolutely smashed them for all their free bets.
I recently created an account for my girlfriend just before Cheltenham and have won the odd free bet….however, that account has just been restricted. How the hell can an account that’s been open for like 2 weeks and received hardly any free bets get gubbed whilst my account which has taken the piss in constant free bet abuse remain fine…Just makes no sense at all!?
+0March 28, 2016 at 10:46 pm
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OK, so you even allude to the time factor yourself, contradicting your line of argument. Your own account was a long-standing account. Your wife’s account was open for a couple of weeks(?), prior to the biggest horse racing festival and explicitly only made use of offers. For this reason, I can’t see how following the same betting patterns necessarily implies that restrictions are random. Even though it’s not the same, you could make use of the analogy used on here before: imagine a supermarket with an amazing offer. You are the customer that has been wandering around the store before coming to the aisle with the offer. Your wife’s account walked into the supermarket, asked the nearest customer assistant where said aisle is, and walked directly there.
The difference between timing of restrictions (i.e. Boylesport) is surely just down to the bookmaker’s preferences.
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I would love to do an experiement get 2 friends to sign up to a bookie. Do idential bets etc…and I would almost guarantee they would not get restricted at the same time. However, surely if its not random then they should both get flagged up at exactly the same time with their activity being identical? Surely that would be proof its random…whats your opinion on that Mark? As there would be no other explanation?
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My account has always been a bonus abuser, I never as it was walked around the store first..
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Ultimately, it really does come down the bookmaker’s preferences and outlook on matched bettors.
Some bookmakers (usually the bigger ones) really don’t care about matched betting; others care as it substantially reduces their profits. It reminds me of the case of card counting in casinos. Most people don’t realise that casinos don’t care about card counters to the extent that they spend large resources on detecting it. The majority (99%+) of people that attempt to count cards in casinos fail as it’s pretty difficult to act normal and count with 8+ decks; as a result, casinos actually profit from people attempting it!
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You can never prove that it’s random based on an experiment. One of my friends is a trader at one of the big high-street bookmakers, and he’s told me before that they do actively apply criteria to find said bettors. It’s not random.
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Moreover, you did walk around first. You just didn’t realise it… Perhaps you got lost? Haha. Did you sign up just before Cheltenham and go to town on the offers available? If you did, then fair enough.
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But if two people are doing exactly the same bets…on the exact same market at near enough the exact same time and therefore both get the same amount of free bets etc. Yet one gets restricted after say a month and the other continues for many months that sounds bloody random to me ahaha!
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Can he lift restrictions? 🙂
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Anyway, I’ve given my opinion. Hopefully you get banned soon and that will be that (JK!).
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My theory is that MarkCorrigan is somehow connected to one or more bookies. Seems to know far too much about how trading teams work and all these analogies such as supermarkets etc sound like they are lifted straight from a training manual. Would also explain the round the clock posting on here. A few of us discussed this away from here, starting to believe it.
What seems to have happened this weekend is that we’ve been gubbed because of horse racing. I posted quite a few of the ones i went for so maybe someone is passing on this information and getting all those who get on the horse flagged up.
Been saying for months now that this forum probably has people working for the bookies monitoring it. We should be more careful. Wouldn’t surprise me if these “Peep Show” users were all on the bookies payroll.
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I think what he means by random is unpredictable, unknown, unknowable. By that meaning it is random.
I’m sure the criteria are well laid out by the bookie’s but we don’t know what they are. And every bookie is different and they probably change their selection criteria all the time.
Generally speaking the result of a coin toss is considered random but if you knew accurately enough the magnitude and direction of the force applied to the coin you could figure out how fast it will spin and how high…….
Another thing Ryan. On your girl friends accounts if you just tap straight into the race and the horse ie minimal engagement with the site then that might not help. They want the promos to suck you in so that you start to engage. For example I always watch the races streamed off the will hill app when I can and that may have helped.
Mark. Am I right that will hill is the best acca offer?? No min odds? I am considering ditching the horses on will hill before I lose it. Turn my attention to accas…
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I agree with Chris these characters seem soo dodgy, I asked about the accumulator spreadsheet numerous times FACT they dodged over the subject FACT and then claimed they had other methods to make money FACT
Can only mean one thing they are on the inside and getting commission from catching us or something
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Sort of agree Chris, sorry Mark you’ve let us all down. Ahahaha
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Don’t know what you’re talking about… I work for JLB.
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