Shaaaarbing
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So, anyone here do any sharbing?
Placed my first one today in Coral’s: Reading @ 2.2/2.1 £100 stake. Didn’t really know how to play it with the stake so I thought £100 was a fairly safe low figure to not arouse suspicion.
Brought slips home from Lads/WillHill/Corals and found around 8 arbs in total. How many of these prices haven’t been cut, I don’t know.
Thoughts?
+0February 5, 2016 at 4:49 pm
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One other question Starlord.
Before you give the slips to the people behind the counters do you ask them if the prices are still the same or what?
+0Personally, I didn’t. But had they not told me about a price change then I would have just refused the bet. I know from placing accas in the past that they normally do advise of price changes. Always a good idea to double check the slip.
It’s a little bit time consuming for small reward. The Arsenal sharb netted me around £20 from £300 staked. Could have underlayed for double that. I guess when the >10% sharbs pop up it’s much more worthwhile. Especially if you live in a big city with lots of shops!
+0You must need a fair wedge to make this viable. That and a lot of free time!
+0Just a thought about this. Say u started with 10k and did 100 per bet up to a max of 5 different stores. Could u risk not laying them off? As in the long run this is just donating money to the exchanges. If your starting roll was big enough then u could take the variance in particular like that Arsenal game which was basically flipping a coin with a small weighting in your favour. Also what happens if u do the slip and the person puts it through without informing you of the price change?
+0Another suggestion regarding not laying….already a thread about that!
+0If u take the 9 games mentioned including the Arsenal one and did 100 on each your outlay is 900 and only 3 actually won!
650 on Leicester 153 on Roma and 210 on Arsenal 1013 back so would have been 113 up on the weekend. Wonder what the guarnteed profit would have been using smarkets to lay them all off.+0Yeah….thats down to leicester winning if they hadn’t you would have been massively down. Next time you do it you might lose most of them again but not be lucky enough to hit one with quite big odds…are you really suggesting not to lay based on one weekend of results posted above? As I suggested before there is a separate thread which discusses laying or not laying, I however am going to continue to lay my bets.
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Just walked home from work and backed Valencia at 3/1 for 100 current lay price 3.7 in will hill.
+0My biggest fear here would be the slip going threw and getting the real price like what happens in my local paddyyyy’s
If I’m asking is the price the same as on the coupon then I’m only highlighting the error.+0I think it would be crazy not laying these. On what basis?
You have to 100% believe that every time that you make a straight bet that you are in the long run losing money to the bookie – unless you are getting something like a massive boost or a certain/very likely significant free bet back. Apart from free bets the bookie has it all rigged in their favour with the over round. Also I don’t believe that any tipster or expert has more expertise than the bookie traders or better data analysis or a bigger bank of statistics. Trying to beat a bookie long term just straight betting is like trying to beat Kasparov in a game of chess. I find it funny to listen to people say well this horse ran well in so and so – or he will win because he likes soft ground. You know what – the bookie knows exactly his form and exactly the ground and exactly how significant that is. You don’t have more info or knowledge. They make buckets of cash. They are doing it for decades. You won’t beat them in a direct straight bet…. Maybe I have too much respect for them….
The difference between the price on the slips and the online lay price of the tiny fraction required to turn 300 into 320 hardly inspires that the price on the slip is boosted enough to represent positive expected value.
I may have said on other threads that some times I may not lay. But it’s totally a different circumstance when you’re getting a free bet back….
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