Bet365 £50 Horse Racing Offer for 100% Profit

  • Before I start, I want to say that I did not come up with this technique. I am simply spreading it so people can profit. Whoever came up with this is a genius in his/hers own right.

    There has been a lot of talk with a few people about how 100% profit can be made on the Bet365 Feature 4/1 and Channel 4/1 races. While a lot of people understand it correctly, I want to make a forum post about it so people can always check the right way of doing it in the future.

    Before anything, let me give you some rough stats as that will put this offer into a better perspective for the skeptical ones who cannot be bothered with £4-5 profits (It’s fine, I was the same.) Also, if there is anyone who has attempted this offer more times than me, he or she can have more concrete results due to the law of large numbers. If this person is here on MBB, please come forward and tell us your roughly estimated income.

    Some stats:

    You can do this offer the typical way, where you simply back a horse at Bet365 and lay the same horse on Smarkets for a loss, and hope for a win. I have done this offer on 79 races thus far and the horse that I have backed only won 15 times. Doing this the normal way would mean loosing a qualifier 79 times at roughly £3/per race and winning 15 times at roughly £35each time (It is most likely £38-39 but I am already taking QL into an account). This would give me an effective QL loss of £237, an income of £525 and a profit of £288 after 79 races, paying myself an effective rate of £3.64/race.

    £4-5 profit would yield greater results all the way (£316+), AND you are receiving your money now, AND instead of trying to understand horse racing and doing research into who may actually win, you are guaranteeing yourself easy income each race.

    Some more stats:

    The first time I did this offer was on 5/5/16. There are 2 races each day apart from Saturday when there are on average 8 races. That gives us 224 races(1) since I started and I have only attempted 35% of them and in the span of 78 days to give me an additional £300-400(2).

    Also, as you get better I can guarantee you that you will be making £5-6-7 per race. There are some races I have made £10 on, but only a few, and therefore my profit is actually much larger than what I am presenting. However in my belief this kind of profit is already great enough if you think about the span of time it took. It is like paying yourself an additional £30 a week.

    But enough of my stats, let me actually present the full idea. Instead of backing and laying the horse, we simply overlay the horse for a profit. We are using Cashmaster 4/1 Calculator: https://www.cash-master.com/bet365_4to1.htm

    So using todays 21/7/16 races, Bet365 is giving us 2.55 Worchester. We could back Gardiners Hill at odds of 5-1 or 6 is you prefer decimals. Closer to the race, the lay odds will bet shorter, around 6.2 At this point you need to be quick enough before Bet365 changes odds to 5.5 or even 5. Giving 6 and 6.2 lay, calculator tells me to back £50 at 6 and lay £55.02 at 6.2.

    If the horse looses I win 55.02/1.02(comm) = £53.94-£50 bet365 stake= £3.94 profit.

    If the horse wins I loose my liability and my position is as follows. £50×6 = £300-£50 stake – £286 = -£36.

    At this point, the following race becomes RISK FREE (Bet365 simply returns you the stake). You need to use your own money and calculate Stake Not Returned on a horse who has odds of 4-1 or above. This has to be done on the next race available(3).

    At such a high odds SNR will give us £39-40 profit, bringing the overall position back to £4 profit.

    Mistakes to avoid:
    1. Backing a horse now and leaving the lay side open because you ‘think’ the lay odds will drop below and thus create an arbitrage. Unless you are skilled at horse trading, please do not do this. I did this twice. Once I got lucky and once odds drifted to heavens and I ended up with a huge loss.

    2. Backing for more than £50. This offer is for MAX £50. Do not bet £60-70 or £100. Bet365 will refund ONLY £50.

    3. Betting on all the races all at once. Lot of people do that. They simply see there are 8 races on Saturday so they back and lay all at once. This is a mistake because if you win on bet365 your next horse should have a lot lower liability since it is SNR. There are exceptions when you can do this however, for example when closing an abnormal profits(£8+). E.G. many times it happened to me that I backed a race at 2.15 and the next race was at 2.35. If the horse wins at 2.15 I have to use my risk free on 2.35, but 2.35 odds are something like 5.5 and 5.2 for lay on Smarkets. So naturally I close it for an additional income and pray to all gods of Westeros that the horse at 2.15 looses because if he wins my liability is suddenly too large and I am loosing money. If you are away from our laptop, you are screwed but if you are there all along, simply head to Smarkets and back the same horse to reduce your liability to what the MBB calculator tells you.

    4. Wait. I’ve never use to do it, I only do it now. At the beginnings I would settle for £2-3 profit. Now I wait 1-2 mins before the race kicks off when the real money comes in and I often close for £5+ profit.

    5. Doing this offer all the time. Although you could try I would not advise it. I heard of people doing this offer daily and nothing happened. I also had a friend who did this offer straight for two weeks on every race, won only on two occasions, but bet365 still closed down his account. I do this offer 35% of the times. I may push it to 50% and you may want to try 70% of these races a month. That is all fine however if they block you from bet365 you are loosing out on a lot of future income.

    There is a belief that when you are loosing all the time (or most of the times) they won’t block you because it is good for them. I spoke to a trader from PP and he told me that when they see your statement you give them at the beginning and you have £3000 in your account but you have managed to bet £4000 over the past two months, something is fishy. Similarly, when bet365 sees an 18 year old matched bettor who’s address is at some university campus, and this moron made bets worth of £10000 in past 3 months, you can be sure as hell he will be blocked. Bookies aren’t idiots. They are smarter than us. Money has to be coming from somewhere and if you are loosing it in one place , you are clearly winning it in another place.

    To conclude, have fun with this offer. If I have done this offer 50% of times (112 races), I would have made an additional £500+ in profits since I started. That is not too shabby if you ask me.

    Also, sorry for making it far too long but I wanted to cover everything I think you need to know to make this offer for you. I see there are many people who never heard of this and I do not want people making mistakes I have made.

    PS: 0% commission on horse races on Matchbook.com till the end of July, and 1.15% afterwards. It all adds up folks.

    (1) There may be more races.

    (2) Perhaps even more.

    (3) You can find the next race at Current offers->Horse Racing->Channel 4 4/1 or Feature 4/1.

    Feature 4/1 and Channel 4/1 and two separate offers that work the same. If you win on the last 4/1 channel 4 race, your £50 risk free will be for the next Channel 4/1 race, not the Feature 4/1. You can do this offer on Greyhounds too, 2/1 offer, however liquidity tends to be low and only good market is on betfair for 5%.

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    Dave_Jones 9

    Jay great post thanks for taking the time to write it, before you started doing the Bet365 offers did you read how Matt suggested doing them, take a look at this blog post.

    https://matchedbettingblog.com/horse-racing/bet365-channel-41-offer-for-aintree/#more-53782

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    pbetts 2

    Get what you can and stay under the radar.

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    Jay 2

    FoG: Yeah if you are more experienced its far better. Last week I backed at 7.5 and layed at 6.8 with this technique at it gave me £10 I think or close to it. It was a pure gamble though. Odds can get crazy.

    I agree with a lot that has been said. Staying under the radar is important which is why I have done this offer so little. I personally am no longer doing arbitrage and matched betting as often as I used to and lately I settle for roughly £50 a week profit. I have other job so this is a nice additional income. However I know of people who aim as high as £200+ a week from this. I usually go for some free bets like skybet £5 and betstars £5 and then there is always like one or two £10 free bets and then I do channel 4 to bring it up to £50 and I am happy little bunny.

    However we all have different plans and aspirations. Taking more will get you closed faster seems to be the general idea.

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    swindonraf 0

    i never seem to get odds anywhere near close enough on these offers

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    deathstar 30

    @swindonraf
    Finding close odds is an artform and it takes time and patience to get a feel for the markets and what to look for. you will get much better at it the more you do. when I first started I thought 6.8/7.5 was brilliant, now I wouldn’t go near 5/5.2 (unless its sky! lol)

    HTH

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    pbetts 2

    5/5.2 only on the 365 races ?
    Usually get arbs

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    Jay 2

    It is true. Sky is fairly impossible to get unless you back early and just hope for a better odds. bet365 is lot easier. They usually get as good as 5-5.1 or 5.5 -5.6 and so on which means that this way can be done for easy £5 profit or even more depending on how you tackle this offer in the first place.

    You see these traders trade horses and they say things like oh yeah this price is about to go down and sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn’t. They don’t know and bookies don’t know. It’s all about being there on the right time or just stupid luck, I suppose.

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    sleepless 9

    Been doing this@ £51.02 for a few days over last weeks. Profit about £40 (2 winners). Time spent – 20 hours +, finger poised hoping back & lay odds close. Get ear bashed by other half for wasting Saturdays.

    Is it worth it?.

    Have been more successful with Skybet 2nd/3rd place, although won twice – boooger.

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    FoG_BLoG 59

    I agree sleepless. It’s not a valuable offer.

    The only thing I’ll say is that you get quicker and more efficient at it. If you are watching the races or at a laptop anyway then it’s easy to do.

    Works for me.

    But as I said I didn’t even touch the offer while I still had paddy power, will hill, Sky etc accounts. There were/are better offers out there.

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    pbetts 2

    @fogblog

    I’d be interested to know what the better offers are. I treat this as the best out there.

    I’m all ears mate ??

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    FoG_BLoG 59

    Hi pbetts.

    Best offers for me were the money back 2nd races which I don’t see a lot any more and the bet 20 get 10 on football, which likewise seems to have disappeared. Paddypower bet 25 get refund if losing at HT is a pretty good one at the moment in that you can do it in 5 minutes any day of the week. I’m sorry, I don’t have a lot of accounts left so don’t know what is good else where as I don’t really follow.

    I find the boosts are pretty good – sunbet, skybet, paddy and boyle have regular boosts.

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    pbetts 2

    Cheers fog

    Think it’s time to open sunbets ?

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    Pickle 60

    I think on this offer people need to look past the smallest qualifying losses and put £51.02 on the horse they think may well win. Not ideal but i dont mind taking a £20 loss on a winner if thats the best i can get on one i fancy. As long as its risk free theres still money to be made off the risk free bet.

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    Marv 2

    As far as I am concerned it is all relative

    The problem for me with overlaying each and every race, is if you hit a winner, the next race might not be a good race for extracting the return you have already accounted for

    Imagine the next race has short price favourite, odds on even, and second fav is 6/1 or 7/1 bigger, the lay side is horrendous

    Or the next race could have very few runners or be a massive handicap

    Laying the 2.10pm race, certain that you will get the right odds required for the 2.30pm race dependent on whatever result from the 2.10pm race is not possible in my opinion

    The other thing to take into account is taking the horse with the smallest qualifying loss is not always the best plan, I would rather back a 5/1 shot with a say 2% qualifying loss than a 10/1 with a 1.5% qualifying loss

    Because the 5/1 shot is likely in the long run to win more than the 10/1 shot

    If you actually follow horse racing you can do well out of the offers, keeping your bets to horses in the top 3 of the markets where the qualifying loss is appropriate, doubling up with the betfair offer means you have two horses running in the same race

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    Marv 2

    Matt blogged the bet365 offer at cheltenham using the overlaying way

    Check his results

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