Moving House
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I have used all of the sign up offers I want to touch, and am now slowly starting to get banned from a few bookies. I think my matched betting days may be ending soon.
However, I am moving house to a completely different part of the country soon. I was wondering if it was viable for me to open a new current account, and set up new bookies accounts to take advantage of sign up offers. I could use different form of ID if they asked for it, and the bank account would be with a different bank.
I wanted to know if there were any laws I would be breaking doing this (E.g. Fraud). Also, has anyone else done this with any success?
+0January 11, 2016 at 12:59 pm
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I suspect it is only fraudulent to purport to be someone you are not, which it does not sound like you will be doing.
The recent cull of Bet365 accounts (me included) will have several folks looking at alternative means of opening ‘fresh’ accounts – your method sounds far more ‘honest’ than anything I have come up with yet! A great time to be genuinely moving house, I would say 😉
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If you use google you’ll find the news article about the bloke who got 18 months (i think) in the slammer for doing just that. Be bloody careful!
Also, I believe they match names and DOBs so unless you change one of those you won’t get verified.
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https://content.met.police.uk/News/Man-jailed-for-Bonus-Abuse/1400007796996/1257246745756
Here you go. It was three years!!
+0He was jailed for stealing identities, using fake passports, opening fake bank accounts.
Yes exactly the same as what OP is considering. You don’t spot any differences?+0
Starlord: “If you use google you’ll find the news article about the bloke who got 18 months (i think) in the slammer for doing just that.”
For doing just that?
In fairness, I don’t think the OP is proposing anything like that guy in the story you have linked to! His convictions are clearly more to do with the 5,900 scanned passports and fraudulent bank accounts than they are with getting one over on the bookies.
+0I can see the headline: “man sent to prison for opening 2 bet365 accounts”
+0As long as your not breaking any laws, such as identity fraud, money laundering etc, where the bookies are forced to contact the authorities you will be absolutely fine!
The bookies are making far too much money to start legal precedents that scare away their customers!
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It’s fraud. It may be the very thin edge of the wedge, but don’t try and dress it up like it’s not committing an offence!
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I hardly think its fraud you could definitely plead ignorance like you forgot you used to have an account or something. When I started matched betting I used to have the odd punt when I was alot younger, however, I knew I had some accounts with bookies but wasn’t sure which ones. When I set up a William Hill account went to deposit it wouldn’t let me said my account was suspended, turns out I already had an account with them.
Anyway….they didn’t exactly report me to the police and say I was committing fraud, you could easily just try it no harm in it in whats the worse that can really happen? they find out you used to have an account and then ban your new one, aslong as you don’t go changing your name and stuff. It would be there own fault for not keeping better systems and flagging up your name and DOB. (not saying their systems won’t flag this up but worth a go)
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Rule 1: Ignorance is not an excuse!
Anyway, the OP asked if it would be considered fraud. Yes. Yes, it definitely would.
How do you qualify your “I hardly think it’s fraud” statement? Not trying to have a go, but you’re wrong.
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Technically I suppose it is fraud, if the OP deliberately sets out to deceive. However, I think what myself and others are saying is that the consequences are unlikely to be as “sensational” as your man in that story you linked to.
No need to get too worked up about it all, it is up to the OP what he decides to do, isn’t it?
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