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  • Hi,

    I am wondering if any of you use free or paid for services to help locate appropriate matched bets?

    I have found the following that appear to be free online:
    – mbassist
    – freebets4all automatcher
    – okeyno oddsmatcher
    – bet catcher (although this seems to restrict itself to only those where the bet odds are greater than the lay odds therefore is geared towards arbing?)

    Then I read on a website reviewing odds-finding software (albeit from an arbing perspective) that the free ones were no good because everyone can see the best value bets and therefore the bookies’ attention is easily drawn to them, resulting in gubbing. The argument was that paid for services would offer more discreet value bets and therefore would be a better option.

    However, I was under the impression that for matched betting purposes, if you selected a bet that wasn’t the absolute highest value available (e.g. the bet value is lower then the lay value) and was on a mainstream market (on which there would be lots of mug betting occurring e.g. a Premier League match) then this would help you to blend in? In which case, surely a free resource capable of identifying those type of bets would be sufficient?

    Again, any advice much appreciated,

    TE

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    The Enforcer
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    May 1, 2016 at 1:01 am

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    deathstar 25 May 1, 2016 at 9:12 am

    i think this comes down to what you are actually looking to do. comparison sites like Oddschecker (free) are very useful for fast moving odds like horse racing and for seeing which bookie has the best odds so you can choose which horse with which bookie. (this will also tell you why some odds are seemly so far out of line, because there is usually a bookie somewhere who is offering better odds than the ones you want and it is skewing the exchange market)

    When you first start up, the markets being bet on would generally be football and they are quite slow to move until very close to kick off. You would also only be looking at one particular bookie, rather than all of them. With the sign up offers and very new accounts, you want to be betting on the “big” games anyway, so this again reduces the markets you want to look at.
    I think you can still sign up for a free account at oddsmonkey which will give you an idea of how the markets are albeit with a 20 minute delay. from that point you can monitor the odds yourself, its good practise to find good odds matches yourself and get a feel of how they move in relation to each other.
    I pay for oddsmonkey as I feel I can justify the cost, but others may say i’m lazy! 😉

    HTH

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    The Enforcer 0 May 1, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Thanks,

    The free Oddsmonkey service seems to have disappeared during the course of the last week, but it sounds like MBassist, which is powered by them would be fine for my initial purposes. I can then consider the paid for Oddsmonkey service further down the line once I have got an established income stream.

    Another related question I had was should I stick to betting on the home/draw/away market on the bigger matches? Does placing bets on markets such as over/under or HT/FT, for example, look more suspect to the bookie or am I over-analysing?

    Cheers,
    TE

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    The Enforcer 0 May 1, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    To add to my post above, to give a theoretical example, if I wanted to bet on Chelsea v Tottenham tomorrow, the best qualifying bet with a particular bookie for that match is under/over (+2.5) at odds of 1.75 and then the best return on the free bet for that match is correct score (0-2) at odds of 15 (I recognise that choosing this free bet would also present exchange liability and liquidity issues).

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    Tony 12 May 2, 2016 at 1:11 am

    On big games like Chelsea v Spurs they will take so many bets that you’ll be absolutely fine doing under/over 2.5 etc… You will also find plenty of liquidity on the correct score market in that game if you do want to go for 2-0.

    All I would say is think about WHEN you place your bets and consider how wise it is to back 2 polar opposites with the same bookie – so backing over 2.5 and then backing 2-0, or doing Chelsea pre match and then Spurs in play etc… People (including myself) often over analyse what they THINK the bookies will pick up on, but it does no harm to just think logically about what actions might get your account looked at. That is the key to all of this; going unnoticed and not giving them a reason to look into your account. Unusual betting patterns and stakes, hefty withdrawals and erratic behavioural differences between what you do with your own money and what you do with their money (free bets) can all be flags imo

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    deathstar 25 May 2, 2016 at 7:33 am

    agree with tony here, you don’t want to be contradicting yourself. I tend to bet on win/draw/win and then 1-0 or 2-1 for the team I’ve backed. may not be the most you can extract but it does look “muggy”
    I don’t really use the asian markets (+2.5 etc) for normal matched betting, however these are useful for dutching when mug betting or rollovers etc.

    Just thinking out loud, We should make a thread with complimentary markets for example 0-0 can be laid on -0.5 etc. I always get confused which ones which with offers like team A to win by 3 goals…

    Back on topic, MBassist looks like it is the same as what you used to get with the free oddsmonkey account anyway.

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    The Enforcer 0 May 2, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    Thank you both once more.

    I am glad I cited that particular example, as I had indeed completely overlooked the contradiction in the two bets and the need to place complimentary bets if placing qualifying and free bets on the same match (not that I would necessarily do that for weekend fixtures when there are usually a range of big matches to choose from).

    As an aside, I have a hunch that a 0-2 Spurs win is more likely than those odds are suggesting, so I would have been nervous about getting my exchange cleaned out anyway!

    Cheers,
    TE

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