Accumulator Generator…

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    @Dan87

    I don’t think that spreadsheet guarantees a profit. It certainly doesn’t do it in the way that the accumulator generator does.

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    MarkCorrigan 9

    Omg please stop giving this guy £180 a pop for something which you can do yourself.

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    MarkCorrigan 9

    @Scottywire, you won’t spend ages looking for accumulators… Takes 5 mins to do one using a site like oddsmonkey.

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    @MarkCorrigan

    I’m not advocating getting accumulator generator but I’m just saying it’s not the same product.

    Finding the matches is fine but calculating the stakes required and the technique is above most people.

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    patrick
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    @betty and therein lies the problem.
    Those people should not be matchbetting.

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    MarkCorrigan 9

    I have to agree with Patrick. If you can’t understand, or derive, the laying methodology for guaranteeing profits from the offer then I simply do not advocate doing the offer. It’s just like generic matched betting offers… If you don’t understand what you’re doing then you risk losing large sums of money. For example, if you choose 7 accumulators in a week which all contain several of the same legs (quite common), but end on different days, you can find yourself having to lay £1000s on a match (depends on the odds). Imagine if you didn’t understand the method and you get to the final leg and you’ve exhausted your bankroll!

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    Dave_Jones 7

    Mark what kind of redundancy do you have built in. As you say you could end up having to lay £1000s so at the very minimum I’m guessing you will have:-

    1. At least two accounts at exchanges (Betfair and Smarkets) do you use other exchanges too.

    2. At least one computer and one smart phone or tablet device.

    3. Broadband connection using land line, and connection via mobile phone network.

    Anything else you have, I can imagine it would be a nightmare loosing your broadband connection just before making these lays. I live in a rural location with a very unreliable internet connection, I suppose if you live in a city the infrastructure is more reliable.

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    @MarkCorrigan @patrick

    I think most people can understand the technique of extracting profit from an accumulator offer but not the actual maths behind it.

    >Laying each leg until you get a loser.
    >Then laying against the refund (with greatly reduced stakes).
    >Stop laying if you get a second loser

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    @Dave_Jones

    You can lay a single accumulator with the around the same value of the acca

    e.g £50 @ 6 and you’ll need around £300

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    MarkCorrigan 9

    @betty

    Is understanding the methodology for extracting profit and the maths behind it not the same thing?

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    deezer53 0

    @betty Yet on here the examples given by Andy and Jez a couple of pages back stipulated that you only stopped laying after 2 losers in order to lock in a profit. Is that different from the Accumulator Generator method?

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    deezer53 0

    @betty Oops! Misread your post. I see youre saying esentially the same thing. The only thing I couldnt work out was that Andy and Jez both had the same stake and odds yet they came up with different opening lay stake. Anyone know the reason for this?

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    MarkCorrigan 9

    I think the reason for the different opening stakes was that Jez was guaranteeing a profit regardless of all outcomes… Andy even says that profit from his laying strategy was dependent on the outcome of the first leg.

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    JeremyUsbourne 0

    @deezer53 if you look at andys posy he states:
    “Amount you can profit differs if the first leg won”
    with his example – I assume he is not explicitly calculating the lay stakes for fixed profit but approximating them somehow. You can see from the image I posted on page 8 that with my methodology it is identical profit for each outcome, hence having different stakes. Additionally I used 85% extraction (actually 90% is easy to achieve for william hill as the free bet is valid on horses) and andy used 80 which will impact the figures.

    I must reiterate the comments above that if you do not understand the maths yourself blindly following any online tool or spreadsheet is idiotic, considering with 8 active accumulators at one time you can easily be exposed for 3k+ when laying off each leg

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    MarkCorrigan 9

    I can confirm that I get the same lay stake for the first leg as Jez did.

    https://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2d0bbxy&s=9#.VssNxJN96Rs

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