Bet365 C4 offer
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Could you guys point me to, or explain a simple step by step guide to the above please.
For example’ should the first bet be QB or risk free?. If it wins, what is next step.
I’ve been doing football for a while and would like to try out the horses.Thanks in advance
+0August 20, 2016 at 12:54 pm
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New to matched betting?
My Matched Betting Academy is the best place to get started. Learning the fundamentals takes 10-15 minutes and you’ll make £15 in the process.
Learning the fundamentals takes 10-15 minutes and you’ll make £15 in the process.
Sounds right to me, but like I say I haven’t received the offer so cannot see the T&Cs.
Of course, if you lose it all into the exchange then you are done and dusted, so that is the preferred outcome. So, if you back QPR tonight for £500 and can lay for close to no loss and they fail to win then you will be finished with the offer and the £100 – £QL net profit will be sitting in your exchange balance.
The key point to remember is that if they do win though, you will deplete your exchange balance and need more capital to top it back up. Just make sure you have enough money to back and lay through the £1500 WR in the event that you keep winning at the bookie. This is where most people fall foul of these kind of high WR offers, by not identifying how much capital it might take to complete the WR in the ‘worst case’ scenario.
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If you decide to chunk it up into lots of smaller bets and take your time (which is also not a bad strategy), be aware that you cannot make any withdrawals from 365 whilst the WR is in progress, otherwise you forfeit the bonus funds.
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Hi again Fog.
I’ve had a bit of success with your option 1 and would like to try out option 4.4.Constant profit ( always lay 53.06 – guarantees £2 if horse loses and more if he wins)
Can you give a bit more detail on that. For example, you don’t mention the odds to look for to get the £2 guarantee. An example would be great if you have time.Thanks
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By laying £53.06 at smarkets, you are always clearing a £2 profit if the horse fails to win, regardless of the odds:
£53.06 x 0.98 (to account for smarket’s 2% comm) = £52
£52 – £50 (stake on 365) = £2 profit
The odds you get will determine how much of your risk-free bet profit you are giving up, or losing, by employing this strategy.
Take home message is still to look for close odds matches 😉
+0@ Foggy excellent explanation of the B365 4/1 offer. Its just a shame that cant be stickied here for newbies to the site to read instead of soon becoming lost in all the various threads.
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Thanks Dave. Also tony’s post deserves a lot of credit too. Nice explanation tony on the rule 4 deductions and the free bet refunds 😉
I’ve explained it to enough ppl, a lot of the other regular guys have helped the new guys. Maybe next time its asked some of the guys that we took the time to explain it to will take the time to explain it on to the new newbies. Would like to see the newbies helping themselves.
+0If you get a 4/1 + winner how do people approach the next feature race ? Do we take a punt with the £50 or play it safe ?
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I will be more than happy to help – once I’m 100% confident.
You experienced guys are extremely patient and helpful. Thanks.
Is it possible to make common questions like this into a seperate topic?+0
Shanks –
It is your choice, but imo taking a punt is not “Match Betting PC” , lol. Unless you study form I’d guess you’d lose unless very lucky.On the TWO occassions I won over about 12 races, I’ve just put on a risk free bet for about £35 profit each.
I lay £51.02 as I normally lose.
Read the guys posts on this thread, you’ll find them very helpful
+0@sleepless when fog mentions in option 4
I can lay just enough to cover qualifying losses and have a punt with the rest to go for a risk free big win. I was wanting this bit explained with an example cheers.+0
Oh you were shanks!
I take £2 per race.
If I win I don’t make that £2, but need the next race to cancel out qualifying losses, so I don’t make £2 on the next race either. So that is two races missed constant profit.
So for example.
Back a horse at £50@5.0 and lay £53.06@5.1. So if he loses then I am up £2. If he wins I am down £17.55 but I have a free bet. So I’ll find close odds for my free bet (say 5.0/5.1 again) and bet £50. Now I lay (£17.55+£2+£2)/0.98 = £21.98 to make up my qualifying loss, and the fact for those two races I haven’t been hitting my £2 profits. If he loses then I am still maintaining a constant profit per race. If he wins then I am up £200 at bookie and down only £90.12 in exchange. So I still get the thrill of a big win. I’ll actually probably lay a little more, but that is the min you can really lay. I will lay a little more because you dont hit the free bet often and don’t want to just guarantee £2 from it really, not enough reward…
Just one way of doing it. I am probably over complicating it though. It’s the way I like to do it. It’s no better or worse than any other – just my way. Everyone comes up with their own style and you will too. You just need to understand the basics. And don’t just blindly follow a method, make sure you understand why you do what you do – otherwise you will end up making mistakes.
+0@FoG hey pal that sounds good to me cheers?
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Its finding the close odds that is difficult.
If you wait until last 5 mins then back and lay odds usually come closer, but it’s a bit stressful waiting, finger poised to grab the good odds. Consequently, my lay odds are poorer than they should be.
If the lay odds go up compared to back odds, what is best thing to do as you could end up with big loss if horse wins?.
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If you don’t get a close match then skip the race. If you see a good match and get your back on and then the lay rockets up before you get your lay on then cash out on bet365 for a small loss. Or take the higher lay if it works out cheaper than cashing out.
Yes getting the tight odds is the tricky bit. And don’t know if it’s just me but seems to be getting harder. I’ve skipped a few races the last few days, maybe because I’ve been out and about and trying to make the matches on my mobile. Sometimes too when there is a short favourite then it’s harder to get tight odds on the longer priced horses….
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