Getting gubbed?? Check for bookmakers spyware on your PC/laptop
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This is a very interesting read and may explain why you are having accounts restricted.
I checked my devices and found the IE Snare spyware had been installed in early January – I strongly suspect it was installed by Ladbrokes
https://www.geegeez.co.uk/iesnare-how-bookmakers-are-spying-on-you-from-your-own-computer/
+0February 16, 2016 at 8:16 pm
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Do browsers share any cookie information?
To try to avoid this i thought i’d split my internet browsing between programs.
I use only safari for my betting side of things ie visiting bookies.
but I use a different browser (Chrome) exclusively for visiting the likes of here, smarkets, oddsmonkey etc.
I’ve never seen iesnare in my chrome cookies but it appears regularly in my safari cookies.
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I don’t know where I stand on this tbh – I follow another blog and it seems a lot of the people there who have gone out of their way to remove/block iesnare, installing blocking extensions etc, are still getting gubbed left right and center (even after taking precautions to mugbet etc)
I have a sneaking suspicion that if they detect that they aren’t getting feedback from iesnare or cookies or whatever, that in itself raises suspicions and plays badly in your favor. Anyone agree?I like your idea though crr – could it be as simple as that? Any techheads want to chime in?
+0I think the main issue with this is that we have no idea with what happens to the data it harvests and where it goes. The article linked on the first page seems to indicate all this does is generate a shed load of spam and entitles the bookies to keep an eye on all our activity.
If they’re using the lack of iesnare activity to stop your account then I would think they’re potentially doing more with your data than you’d want, but perhaps that’s me being cynical+0
Well my understanding is that all data captured by iesnare goes to a central iesnare database that all companies which are subscribed, have access to. That’s how they indirectly know what other sites/bookies you have activity for. Let’s be real it’s no secret in the MB community that iesnare is an issue, and more and more people are going out of their way to block it. It’s generally only us abusers that might be blocking it though, regular punters either wouldn’t know or couldn’t care less.
My opinion is that if there’s a change in the data feed that might previously have been captured, this would obviously indicate that you’ve blocked it to hide your MB activity. We might just be doing their job for them in flagging ourselves as iesnare avoiders.
Are we shooting ourselves in the foot is my question…+0
I don’t really buy this. I have been doing this since August of 2015 and haven’t lost more than one account (I acted very stupid there). If this system would work properly, it would detect that I’m using software, play on several sites of the same company, switch a lot between different bookies and even have an excel sheet on my computer that documents my profits and block me right away.
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I assume you mean you don’t buy the whole iesnare thing altogether?
Firstly iesnare doesn’t have access to software on your pc, and certainly not spreadsheets – but my view is that when it comes to your browsing activity, perhaps it doesn’t so much alert them of your activity, rather it retroactively gives them information to refer to once you’ve been flagged through the usual means. So you or i may not have been gubbed yet, but perhaps if they had to call up that info it would all be there waiting.+0
Furthermore, about using different browsers, although they don’t share cookies as such, this bit I’ve quoted does relate to iesnare, so that theory i think is out…
“The browsers do not share a cache, but plugins might. Like Adobe Flash keeps cross-browser history and “local shared objects”, which can be used in a cookie-like way. Clearing a cache in a browser usually does not remove the information stored by such plugin.”+0Don’t kid yourself that leaving IEsnare on your computer/laptop is a good idea and that your are outwitting the bookies by leaving it on there.
Bookies don’t like MB-ers, arbers. Bookies are only interested in profit and are practically unregulated so it’s a safe bet that they will be doing other stuff that punters haven’t even thought of yet.
Add to the mix the fact that the guy who devised the IEsnare software is the same person that wrote software that allowed him to see players hole cards on the UltimateBet poker site.
if it looks like a duck, walks like duck, quacks like a duck……….
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My question is are we kidding ourselves in thinking that removing iesnare on your computer/laptop is a good idea and that we’re outwitting the bookies by removing it…
In saying that they’re up to other stuff we’re not even aware of, you’re implying it doesn’t make a difference removing it yes?
Surely you see my point? iesnare is getting a feed from you and ticking away happily, then one day it’s getting blocked. I don’t think it’s a far stretch to say that might be a flagging for investigation in itself? The fact that a lot of people haven’t removed it (myself included) and have not had one gubbing, hints that it might not be a proactive alert system as such, but something to refer to once suspicions have been raised?
Or am I way off?+0you are way off
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well, that’s that I guess…
what a waste of time+0
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