Euro 2020

  • I’m not sure that the bookies are keeping up with all the nuances of the Euro 2020 draw procedure.

    Two points:

    1. One of the Nations League D teams will qualify – its the way it was designed to give smaller nations a chance to improve. So you will have one of Georgia, Kosovo, Macedonia or Belarus qualify from Path D.

    2. The hosts are already drawn into their groups, so hosts that qualify (or have the chance to qualify) will be placed into groups. For example England are already paired with Scotland who can qualify via Path C play offs. Scotland or whoever qualify will be 4th seed in England’s group. Its already decided.

    So who can get the dream draw of the Path D team (probably Georgia or Kosovo), with potentially 3 teams going through to the quarter finals from each group – this could effectively be a bye into the QF.

    As said, England (Group D) are already paired with Scotland – so that is their Pot 4 team. Same with Germany (Group F) and Hungary, Netherlands (Group C) and Romania, Spain (Group E) and Ireland (at the moment).

    So that leave Group A (Italy), Group B (Russia, Denmark) and that’s it!

    Group B is unusual as the host are in Pots 2 and 3 … and cannot be drawn with another host team, so potentially Ukraine, Belgium or Croatia will be their Pot 1 team. But it can’t be Ukraine (political reasons) and Croatia will probably drop out of Pot 1 provisional position so its very likely they will get Belgium, which wont make it easy on either of them. But could be handy enough for Belgium in a group like Belgium/Russia/Denmark/Georgia.

    In short Italy are a top seed, and more likely to get a soft draw than others. Belgium could be in a good position also.

    The draws could be very skewed (as discussed considering the League D playoffs). For example England/France/Portugal/Serbia is a possibility for England at the moment.

    There has already been a move on Italy on the exch and some bookie’s slow to react. And I think there could be a move on Belgium also especially if Russia and Denmark are confirmed as direct qualifiers and Croatia slip out of provisional Pot 1 ranking (likely to be passed by Spain who have a game in hand on them).

    This will completely switch if Ireland beat Denmark and they qualify automatically instead, then the advantage switches to Spain/Ireland hopefully.

    Ill be watching in the next round of matches in November if any movements….

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    FoG_BLoG 47

    In the QF, groups BCEF winners get a 3rd place team as opposed to a runner up, which is an advantage. This would be Russia/Denmark/Belgium(?) group, Netherlands/Romania group Spain/Ireland group and Germany/Hungary group.

    Lets remember that Portugal won the last Euros, and Wales got to the semi finals partly because they ended up the right side of the draw. These things can make a big difference. Look at Ireland in the RWC going from 12/1 to 24/1 despite qualifying from their Pool.

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    Andybets74 22

    I’d be surprised if Stephen Hawking could have understood how the Euro qualifying is being decided! It’s interesting though and if you can get your head around it then you could exploit it. Need to read that post again as my head started to hurt!ha 🤣

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    Tony 15

    Hey Fog,

    Brilliant article, when do you advice to have these types of bets on? Obviously we are talking summer next year. Or are you suggesting get on good prices now and trade out once the draw is completed?

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    FoG_BLoG 47

    Hi Tony. I think what I am saying is that the bookie might be slow to react to certain results and not know exactly what they mean. So its possible that arbs will come up and would take them right away. Probably small stakes and small margins. Sometimes good for free bets. I’ve always enjoyed having some bets on the outright’s of the main tournaments.

    When you are stake restricted you look everywhere just to turnover a little more cash.

    I know you are talking about most of a year before you see any money back. So ideally not laying anything or tying up your float. Just small punts or free bets. Maybe even get each way value on reaching the final. Stuff like that.

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    FoG_BLoG 47

    The playoff odds are a bit off.

    You can dutch playoff Path A between best odds on b365 and PP.

    Romania 4.5 (PP)
    Iceland 3.3 (PP)
    Hungary 3.5 (365)
    Bulgaria 6.0 (365)

    Some of the other odds seem off too, but not so much that you can dutch them.

    eg Georgia 2.5 vs 3.75. N. Ireland 5.0 vs 6.5

    I am not sure that 365 aren’t having a moment, and not realising the subtely of the draw and the fact that Hungary, Bulgaria, N. Ireland, Georgia etc would have home advantage in their play off semi final.

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