Gubbed by Betfair!!!
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Absolutely gobsmacked to receive a message today advising me I’ve been gubbed on both Sportsbook and Exchange. How hypocritical can you get? They actively encourage and facilitate strategies like matched betting (including endorsement/sponsorship of MBB) and when customers take advantage of this, they shut them down.
I have transacted around £1,000 in business on Betfair’s platforms in the last year alone, and have paid significant commission in the process. What benefit do Betfair gain by restricting my account?
+0January 18, 2023 at 3:07 pm
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I did not understand either, was also cancelled after being with them for years and would have been clear what my account was for.
+0I have asked them to delete all my data according to GDPR and then in 6 or 7 years they should have no record of me and so will open a new account then 🙂
+0How can you be gubbed on an Exchange? Do you mean restricted in some way, deposit limit etc
This is very strange to hear. I know people who have been banned from Exchange for various misdemeanours but not gubbed.
+0Has anyone read the revised privacy notices being sent out by a group of betting firms including betfair as well as the entain, paddy, hills groups and bet365?
It seems this group of operators has just started a project where they will share all of their customers data to identify if we have a ‘problem or addiction’ and use this to close all accounts.
No matter if we make money the ‘addiction’ part can be put on all of us due to our activity/turnover so they can then close down all matched bettors.
It cannot be to identify people with accounts with many firms who don’t match bet as that would ruin their business but it seems to be a solid way for them to get rid of anyone they see matched betting and therefore taking a bit of ‘their pie’
Grateful if anyone can see another reason for them doing this, not all firms are in it so there will still be something left but it will take out the bread and butter of what we do in my opinion.
+0Bookmakers love match bettors, despite the vernacular you may hear especially from a well known services provider.
Why? For every match bettor who signs up for a bookmaker is another account they have and would possibly never have had. Of those who sign up with the best intention of never placing mug bets or bets in general, who do not ever have another bet the percentage is tiny.
So the bookmakers get their money back every time and more. So don’t be fooled into thinking bookies give a damn about match bettors pulling tiny amounts by doing offers.
What bookmakers hate 100% is people winning or taking value from them that’s it. That’s what they are trying t o stop and will stop in a heartbeat. There are millions who are gubbed/restricted/banned or don’t have a clue about match betting, just ask any of your friends.
So while this may be true the big firms ‘checking’ up on people it’s absolutely nothing to do with match betting.
+0The fact that betfair are in the group and will share exchange information with the bookies will make it instantly obvious what we’re doing to the bookies.
Way I read the policy is that a ban from any bookie in the group would mean a ban from all the operators in the group including betfair.
I’m not leaving any money in accounts overnight any more as I could do without that hassle if a sudden block ban comes into effect.
It seems a lot of effort to jointly put into effect just to weed out punters who make a few quid from them as they should be able to tell that anyway.
+0Well then you read it wrong I’m afraid. Don’t be so paranoid. Bookmakers despite being owned by Flutter/Entain are autonomous and what you do at a bookmaker won’t get you gubbed on an Exchange.
This is some of the backward thinking which stops people reaping every bonus before the inevitable gubbing comes.
If you self exclude however for instance from a partner then yes it cascades to all the partners. For instance a seemingly correct action of excluding on Pokerstars will see you excluded from Betfair including the Exchange so be careful there, but match betting across partners they do not care at all. You will be gubbed match betting or not.
Enjoy MB while you can and don’t hold back taking offers or worrying about who is in league with who. A ban is not a gubbing, a ban is also very rare, restricted accounts are more likely.
+0Okay, thanks for those answers and hopefully it won’t happen as it would be a shame to lose the income, maybe it’s just my pessimistic side looking at it.
There’s not a lot of logic to the gubbings, 888 wouldn’t have me from the off, livescorebet folded tamely after little money and paddy went next after I hammered him for offers, Fred also followed suit. Virginbet are still going with it and 365 who I have unluckily took for well over a grand the last six months with some bad luck in lots of free bets winning at big prices seem happy to keep giving me more.
In the back of my mind is my plan to move later this year so am wondering what might be done with a new address, email address and bank account/card and a fairly common name… nothing ventured etc…
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