ACCA (again sorry!)
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Hi Guys,
First post in a while!Thought it was time I started on the Acca’s. I feel the best method for me personally is the Lay all at the start method, I presume the no lay method is probably more beneficial, however guess i’m just a wimp!
Result Bookmaker Exchange Your Profit
All win (24%) £68 -£40 £28
1 lose (40%) -£5 -£7.50 -£12.50
2 lose (26%) -£25 £25 £0
3 lose (9%) -£25 £57.50 £32.50
4 lose (1%) -£25 £90 £65
All lose (0.1%) -£25 £122.50 £97.50I found the above online, this is based off a £25 stake and back and lay odds of 1.3/1.32. I assume this is correct?
Any tips would be appreciated!
Thanks+0February 16, 2017 at 12:58 pm
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+0I’d say and said it before, be versatile – you can’t choose the fixtures and odds
Whilst I look for 5 lower odds to use the no lay method there’s still other situations that warrant different approaches for me at least. 4 stupidly low odds and a higher close match scenario becomes a lay on a risk free bet.
There’s also enough posts on the page to tell you the most profitable method long term, but you’ve got to be comfortable with risk/return.
+0@ J The most profitable method long term is not to lay your accas. BUT if you say yes to any of the following questions then I don’t think you should go down that route just yet.
1. Your new to accas or fairly new to match betting in general and haven’t yet got an intuitive grasp of odds and probabilities.
2. Losing several hundred pounds in a short period of time would adversely affect you either financially or phsycologicaly or both.
3. You have a low tolerance to risk.
I think for most people, giving up some of the potential profit on accas by laying, is probably a better way forward than not laying them.
Read what Fog blog has to say on accas, although he says he is no expert, he probably knows more about them than 95% of everyone else using this forum.
Finally, I don’t use odds monkey (I’m too mean) and all the information you need is available for free on here and other forums, but like others have said it wont take you long to make back the £15 per month they charge. Once you have got to grips with it all you may well find you don’t need their services anyway.
One thing you do need to bare in mind though, bookies will still gub you perhaps not quite as quickly as normal, but eventually you will lose accounts even just doing accas.
+0@J forgot to add one more thing. Play around with one or two of the spread sheets posters have been kind enough to put on this forum. Foggy put one up fairly recently, note how easily an acca can go from being profitable to losing you money just by a some small changes in the lay odds.
This is very important, and although its not rocked science you do need some grasp of maths to understand how strict you need to be with your selections. The more you do of these the better and quicker you get at doing them. When you first start however it can take quite a while to get the hang of things.
+0Thanks for your advice all. Appreciate it and I’ll keep everything in mind.
+0I’ve actually signed up to odds chimp
Just for the time saving on acca selections by bookie. Will carry on not laying the lower odds ones like ladbrokes, but use it to track a few sequential lays on other bookies where the odds and site navigation just prohibited timely findings of suitable accas to not lay
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Betman. Have you noticed that betvictor used to let you sort their football coupons from odds low to high by clicking on the column header. They seem to have removed this functionality recently. Maybe to make it harder for the acca insurance hawks? Now have to scan through the whole unsorted list!
+0Vic gubbed me before I’d got into accas.
My first matched betting gubbing (had a couple previously), I’d clearly taken too much value from them before and a bet 10/get 10 free must been a step too far!I do find a lot of sites hard. Even ones with their acca insurance coupons skip off some games that are included in the T&C. Odds chimp feels lazy but does help with this
+0One thing I would be a bit concerned about with odds chimp, and it was something I think happened with profit acc. Was if subscribers are using the same software to find the profitable accas then wont lots of people placing the same bets set off alarm bells in the bookies.
If I was one of the big wigs in say Bill Hills or another bookie well known for accas, I would get one of my staff to open an account with odds chimp, and see what the various selections the software was coming up with. Then monitor who was doing these sorts of bets on a regular basis and then gubb them.
Having said that, your going to get gubbed if you do lots of profitable accas (for you not the bookie) anyway so I guess it doesn’t matter all that much.
+0Agree Dave, although you can tweak what’s in the selection.
The no lay approach should be OK, but I’ll be mindful of anything odd looking in their default sequential selections.
They also don’t appear to do 4 v lows and 1 high odds on the sequentials so I’ll manually do those on the international weeks+0I just use oddsmonkey for the acca lock in calculator – I always make my own selections (usually just all the normal favourites, so should blend in fine).
I’ve yet to see a spreadsheet on here that does lock in acca profit (and works) – i.e. making the same profit regardless of any outcomes
+0Just reading through this, and I noticed RyanB is using WH, but placing bets at odds of 1.10. I thought min odds were 1.20 for their Acca insurance, or has that only happened in the past couple of days?
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WH has no min odds on all major football leagues and trophies, read their terms. The min odds of 1.2 relates to all other events.
+0Cheers – that’ll teach me to take too much notice of the ad banners on their site.
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