I have read on several online forums about matched bettors making profit by using the “ACCA insurance” offers. This would be very profitable since the offer is on all the time. On Williamhill you can bet up to 50 pounds, there are no minimum odds and if the win-draw-win-accumulator (minimum of 6 selections) fails by one you will receive a refund of your stake. On PaddyPower the accumulator has to be at least 5 selections. I know it might seem difficult to do but I’m thinking if you place the accumulator on low odds matches on different days of the week it might not be too impossible. As long as you win at least 4 bets, you can secure a profit. Has anyone else thought about this?
Cheers+00December 6, 2015 at 8:39 am
Daniel B 0 December 6, 2015 at 9:07 am
Are you really considering putting up to 50 quid on a or 6 team acca with no bets laid? Used to put a punt on every Saturday and do a 5 team acca. Think I one a handful of times on a yearly basis. This one’s a gamble for me but definitely better than getting no insurance from your local bookie.+0Nellie1 0 December 6, 2015 at 11:34 am
No I’m not talking about gambling. I’m talking about laying one match at a time. For example: I place an accumulator on the following teams to win: Barcelona, Liverpool, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, PSG. All of the teams play on different days. Lets say I bet 20 pounds. I start with laying the Barcelona game. If they win, the accumulator is still on and I lay Liverpool the following day, but this time I have to account for the laying loss on Barcelona. I keep on doing this and hopefully Liverpool, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid win. Now, only PSG is left and the bet can be considered a free bet since I will get a refund if PSG loses. Do you see what I mean? Doing this with 50 pounds will probably require a lot of liquidity and if you screw up you will lose quite a bit of money.
I know this seems very complicated and that’s why I made a thread about it. It might not be profitable since it will take too much time but I thought it was worth asking. Like I said, I have heard of others doing this and profiting from it.+0Pavlon 3 December 6, 2015 at 2:24 pm
This isn’t a bad idea. I hadn’t thought of it like this. I suppose the problem is that the lay odds are going to change over the matches, and you’re maybe going to be losing 10% of the value over each match. Might be worth giving it a try with a £10 bet, rather than going straight in at £50, and doing it a few times with low stakes before deciding whether higher stakes are worthwhile.
Another way is to pick long odds for the first two matches, and then short odds for the remaining four. So if the first two lose, then you can (maybe) double your initial outlay… but I really need to give that some more than and give it a go before I’m sure about that….
Thanks for the idea!+0Nellie1 0 December 6, 2015 at 3:53 pm
Yeah, I think I’ll try this pretty soon! I got a freebet on Superlenny that had to be placed on a multiple of at least 2 bets on NHL. The liquidity on NHL wasn’t very good which made me run into some problems when laying the second bet (the first bet in the multiple unfortunately won).
However, if you stick to large football teams with low odds (last time Barcelona played, their laying odds were around 1.3), I don’t think you’ll lose much at all. And the liquidity is always great when laying on these popular teams so you probably won’t have to get all stressed up because you can’t match your bets! 🙂+078naD 2 December 6, 2015 at 6:05 pm
Good post Nellie1, was thinking about this myself. I think there’s defo something to it.
Perhaps we could get one going between us this week over this thread to see how it goes. I know there’s more work to this and it’s more time consuming but if it yields profit then it’ll be worth it.
As Paddy’s only requires 5 selections you said we could try that? Champions league games Tue and Wed, Premier League tomorrow night.+078naD 2 December 6, 2015 at 6:06 pm
Could we try to get one of these acca’s going on here for this week Nellie1?+0Andy 1 December 6, 2015 at 6:43 pm
Already do this, £12 profit this weekend. If you get the maths right it is a near guaranteed profit, would be guaranteed but some odds change the wrong way, but can change the right way and increase profit. You do need to find the right matches though odds-on favourites with close back/lay odds.+0mike j 10 December 6, 2015 at 6:49 pm
It doesn’t work guys. I enquired about this about a week ago. I built a calculator to lay doubles,triples etc. by laying each match off in turn depending on the result of the subsequent match.When running the numbers through the cost of the liability starts piling up dramatically after 3 games. If your acca was to win, you would lose out big time due to the liability at the exchange+0Andy 1 December 6, 2015 at 6:58 pm
mike j – you built your calculator wrong then, i do this and it works.+078naD 2 December 6, 2015 at 7:20 pm
Andy could you tell us how to do it please?
Maybe how you did this one the past weekend? Would love to start doing these. Can even do them in the shop+0Andy 1 December 6, 2015 at 7:36 pm
I use a calculator that works out the stakes for me, and software that finds the profitable bets.+0mike j 10 December 6, 2015 at 7:42 pm
When I was testing it Andy I was basing the initial acca off boosted triples that are always advertised on various bookies. If you get the time can you show me an example of one of your accas so I can input the odds into my calculator see where I went wrong. I am assuming I just didn’t have good enough odds on my selections+0Nellie1 0 December 6, 2015 at 7:46 pm
That’s great news Andy! Thank you for telling us that it works! Would you mind sharing what calculator and software you use? 🙂 I’m really excited to try this out too!+0
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