EW Arbing
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Merry Christmas all, day’s over now so back to the grind 🙂
Have started trying out ew arbs, finding them manually but have two questions.
1. To try and remain under the radar, do you avoid races with a decent arb on the win market?
As an example, would a 17/13 with place at say 5/3.8 be too obvious?
Is it better to do say a 17/17 with the place at 5/3.8?
Or is the ew bet alone enough to reduce back bet profits at the bookmaker?
2. What kind of stakes can we get away with doing ew arbs?
Made up with my match betting profits so far and i generally have 2-3 hours spare most days and ew arbing defo seems like a good profit booster to overall profits.
Any comments appreciated.
+0December 26, 2016 at 12:27 am
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Learning the fundamentals takes 10-15 minutes and you’ll make £15 in the process.
Matt’s Profit Log by month. So you can make decent money without going for ew arbing or more “advanced” (=more time consuming, and more risky). I don’t know where you get off saying Matt’s offers rarely make more than $300….
201612 588.89
201611 255.81
201610 445.26
201609 642.12
201608 677.68
201607 482.97
201606 1168.29
201605 699.11
201604 609.44
201603 923.31
201602 802.51
201601 881.99+0Where did you get these numbers from Fog?…
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https://matchedbettingblog.com/matched-betting-profit-log/
Copy the table into a spreadsheet and create a pivot table by month.
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I gave you a calculator :shrug:
There’s a 30 page thread on here dedicated to each way arbing. Seems to me you can’t be bothered reading through it and DO want someone to hold your hand. Eh, whatever.
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keiron, this is the only topic you have asked about that is for “experienced match bettors” the others were a very basic question about what to do after sign up offers and how to underlay – both of which were answered, and then your strange liability question which again was answered if you could be bothered to return to the thread you made!
I don’t think you realise that you have to work at this, and wait for the offers to appear. its not a magic money tree that you can pluck whenever your a bit skint, and this is a bad time of year when “easy” offers are already disappearing. Don’t run before you can walk, and build your cash pot up with the ongoing offers before getting into the more involved stuff like this. My point still stands, if you have read everything and can’t understand it – then you are not ready. Be patient and work your way up to it.+0@deathstar it was calculated with £10 each way back bet.
Every matched betting calculator comes back with the same result as Matt’s calculator? The formula isn’t far off at all so I can manually adjust but didn’t want to to Save me precious seconds!!
+0Cheers to everyone who contributed to this thread. I’ve been looking to get into e/w arbing for a while and there is some excellent advice here.
+0Guys, I think Kieron is just trolling you. Or he thinks we and the world owe him something. Or both.
I’ve been at this 6 months and I’m easily making over £500 a month without having to delve too much into ew arbing yet. From reading the forum posts, I understood it, tried it, had some success. But can see it’s only really gonna be great when I have more money to play with.
Kieron, stop whining. There’s plenty of horse racing offers every single day across most of the bookies. I’ve made over £100 from them alone every day this week so far.
+01) I check which races work by using methods on another page.
2) I log into a betting account
3) I log into the exchange.
4) I click on the correct race that I have found.
5) I compare the bookie to the exchange remembering to convert into decimals.
6) I find a horse that is a close match.
7) I go to my bookie and open up a bet slip.
8) I select my stake and double check if it works.
9) I check I have ticked each way
10) I press enter and get the message (the odds have changed do you want to accept this)
11) If I get through number 10 I lay the win horse.
12) I wait until the last 10 minutes and then lay the place at either a 1/4 or 1/5 of the odds.
13) I then watch the stream hoping all runners will start.
14) I win in of my accounts.
15) I am gubbed.It makes me laugh how some people come on here wanting to be spoon fed. Worse than some of the kids I used to teach!
+0Don’t post often but this one I can’t resist.
This is one of the best threads I’ve seem on this site – Kieron, I understand your frustration but the replies you got are really trying to help. My son asked me about each way arbing a few days ago and no way is he ready for that – I put my first horse racing bet on somewhere around 1971 as I recall, I had my **** burnt for years trying to find a way to beat the books (maths is my thing and I figured it should be easy). After 40+ years of betting and taking 38 of those to figure out how to eliminate/minimise losses so as to leverage the wins I still take note of what people like these guys say – and then go practice if I think it makes sense.
It reminds me of that scene in ‘The Matrix’ where that guys is watching the screen and Neo asks him “do you always watch it in code?” to which the answer was “yes, I can see it all”. I find trading arbs exactly like that – if I had to tap out a calculator every time a market moved or a non-runner was declared I’d be totally stuffed – these guys have gained the experience to just ‘know’ what to do when something happens, they only need the calculators to work out the exact figures to maximise (or minimise) their position. They can’t teach you that – some of this stuff they’re doing they just ‘know’ – as far as I can tell they just don’t want to see someone trying to follow an A to Z set of rules on each way arbing and wondering why they’re several thousand pounds down the pan at the end of it.
A really great thread.
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Great to read this thread… beasty, deathstar and fog obviously more than understand this and can make great money from this… i will be honest… this is not for £5 ew bets… its pointless… go and do a bet 10 get 5 free inplay offer…
To make this worthwils you need to be putting £40 – £200 ew on horse and do need a large exchange float!!
I dont need a calculator for me it is simple… i ignore commission because if i have £50 ew on a horse and lay £100 if it comes knowwhere i lose £2 – £4 in commission dependimg on which exchange i use… so if a horse is 21/21 for the win and 5/4 for place then £50 ew i would back £50 lay £50 …. place i back £50 @ 5.0 lay £50 at 4.0. If wins or places i make £48-50 say (commission if doesnt win) if loses i lose £4 … so i risk £4 to win £50 on a 3/1 shot???
No calc/no messing… to me risking £4 to win £50 is incredible value???
If it is say 11.0 for win and i can lay 9.0 near race i still lay £50 for chance of £100 on win… place maybe 3.5/2.0 so again chance of winning £75… so again risking maybe £4 to win £175 is great value… not many firms will pay you £175 for £2ew on an 8/1 shot???
Another stratergy i use is back more than 1 in a race… i had 7 in the welsh national all matched exactly on win and a point place arb on them all…. if hit 1 or 2 places then no commission on exchange..
If hit win again no commission … you dont need loads extra in exchange just as much as highest loser… again if hit winner no commission!!This method is not strictly risk free however has proved a really profitable stratergy making about £2 – £3k per month…
Hopes this helps??
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1 last little trick i sometimes do… if win is 11/11 and a good place arb say 3.0/2.0 if horse is baccked near the race … for £50 ew i will lay £45 on the win and £55 on place… that way if horse wins i make £50 on win and still £45 on place…. you can jiggle the figures to however you want to leave yourself!!!
I think this is one where you have to watch the market and be fast with what you are doing… by the time you have messed around putting figures into a calc the opportunity could have passed!!!
Obviously these are made up figures you may get 11/11.5 on win so i just lay a figure that will pay £500 on the win ..so about £47ish then take £53 on place
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interesting strategy supert. I usually fully lay on the win part so if its an arb take the guaranteed cash, and underlay the place for no loss, so £25.51 on smarks. That way £££ if it places. that’s also why ive had a bad month, none of my horses got anywhere near the front!
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Try the 12.55 at Doncaster today. Chandos Belle is 11.0 at William Hill and is already an arb on the place part so perhaps go in with £25 each way as a test. I would also underlay the place too.
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