Right, I need help!! Opened an account with Winner yesterday and deposited £100. This was matched with another £100 and I put it all on a draw in the Wolfsburg game today. I’d looked at the form and thought they’d win. The tossers drew. So I’ve not got over £800 in the Winner account. How do I get rid of this?
Do I bet through the whole £1600 wagering requirement, withdrawing money from my savings account and topping up my Betfair account?
Or do I try to lose the whole lot? If I go for this option how do I do it in a sensible way which keeps as much of the profit as possible?+02December 12, 2015 at 5:11 pm
Kir 0 December 12, 2015 at 5:25 pm
It’s a bummer when that happens; always try to complete wagering requirements by betting on odd prices of 2.0 – 3.0.
You have two options, either make a big large bet on relatively high odds again (which goes against the rule I mentioned before)…perhaps horse racing where the odds are quite against you and hope it loses out..
…or make smaller bets to wager all your remaining balance and see which one comes first i.e. the rollover requirement vs losing all your balance at the bookmaker. The tedious part is finding tight odds for each matched bet.
Goodluck!+0beh 7 December 12, 2015 at 5:31 pm
Had a similar thing happen.
As above really, depends how much you’ve got in your savings for the former.
Easy enough to just grind through it £50 at a time, lots of racing and football on currently. I went through a similar WR over a weekend.+0Dockie 2 December 12, 2015 at 5:34 pm
Thanks for your help guys. Just placed a couple of £50 bets so have already started working through it. Massive bummer as the £90 profit on the Wolfsburg draw will be virtually nowt. Hey ho!+0MarkC 0 December 12, 2015 at 5:44 pm
Can you withdraw?
I’d make a withdrawal like any mug punter would do. I know it means completing your KYC but it may help you in future.+0Dockie 2 December 12, 2015 at 5:45 pm
Alas no. Need to play through the £1600 before I can withdraw whats left.+0shaneMBBlocked0 December 12, 2015 at 6:10 pm
I’ve only done a few of these high wager through bets, however I have 2 ways for doing them:
1) Bet the entire balance and underlay it so that if it wins, you still have the full bonus, if it loses you lose a little more but cash out straight away. Once you have enough cash on the bookie, place the final bet for slightly more than the remaining wager requirements, but do it as standard so regardless you lose a couple of quid.
2) Do 2/3 at the same time. Bet the entire amount on the same game, but different outcomes. This way you guarantee that you will lose one of them, repeat with the next bookie. Can be done either back/lay or dutch. Allows you to work through several bookies at the same time while only needing the cash flow to do one.+078naD 2 December 12, 2015 at 8:15 pm
Check out that horse lay tipster I posted a thread about Dockie. He’d get the money out for you no bother. Over lay and use a martingale system and you won’t have any losses either.+0Dockie 2 December 12, 2015 at 10:03 pm
Cheers for all your help guys. To be honest I just need to play through the requirement as soon as possible, to enable me to get on with all the other matched betting opportunities. My bankroll is fairly big but I don’t want to do any of the William Hill or SkyBet offers till the £1600 is played through. I’ve taken a few small losses tonight on a mixture of footie and horses and am 37% of the way through. I’ll still get a decent enough profit so panic over. I just shit myself when I saw what I knew, that i’d have to play through £1600!+0Mark P 1 December 13, 2015 at 11:34 am
Not sure if I’m reading this wrong in the offer terms but think you need to be quick:
You must complete the turnover requirement within 7 days of receiving your bonus in order to be able to withdraw your bonus and/or winnings generated from your deposit and bonus.
Edit: Carried on reading and it’s right:
8. If the turnover requirements for this offer have not been met within 7 days of receiving the bonus, winnings and bonuses held in your balance (both bonus and cash balance) will be forfeited.
So maybe don’t keep the bets too small!+0Mark P 1 December 13, 2015 at 12:15 pm
Just read it again, man there is a lot of terms and twists in that offer.+0beh 7 December 13, 2015 at 12:25 pm
Wow, those T&Cs are pretty terrible. A much bigger WR than I’d assumed too.
Have many people had success with it?+0Andy D 0 December 14, 2015 at 10:04 am
I lost about £700 through this. They updated their T&Cs to 14 days. Didn’t meet the rollover requirements within the time and still had a lot of money in the account. Be careful with this.+0Dockie 2 December 14, 2015 at 10:25 am
Well what a roller coaster I’ve been on in relation to this! Nightmare weekend, though it’s all ok now thankfully.
Saturday was busily spent playing thru the £1600. Wins were divided between the exchange and Winner. All looking good working my way through the wagering requirement. Then Ryan B changed things by referring to the fact that multiples needed to be included! Wish I’d read the t&cs as it clearly states that 50% of the wagering has to be on multiples. I panicked, read up, did some calculations and it hit home that I was gonna potentially lose out big time if I carried on. So i braced myself for a £650 loss, withdrew all my money from Betfair and all my other bookies, vowing to give up this ‘risk free’ pastime.
Just before I was preparing to announce the news to my wife I checked and noticed that my wagering requirement had tipped over to 55% despite doing no multiples. So I did another couple of bets (no laying) and it crept over 60%. Then I went for it and placed several hundreds of pounds worth of bets from the Winner account on random football, basketball and American football games to get to 100%, withdraw what was left and put this experience behind me. At about 2 this morning I hit the 100% and withdrew. I’ve made about £60 profit but if I had the chance to go back to Friday I would definitely not do this offer.
I don’t understand how they allowed me to get to 100% without any multiples being included.
My advice stay away from this deal. Barely slept and it ruined my weekend!+0Tony 10 December 14, 2015 at 11:53 am
Glad this (eventually!) had a happy ending for you Dockie.
Serves to reinforce the point about reading the T&Cs very carefully. In terms of Winner – I recently signed up to take advantage of an offer that Matt blogged, so I looked into the SUB then, but decided that it was simply too much chew to make it worth it, so steered clear. It was specifically the ‘multiples’ criteria mentioned that put me off – curious how you have managed to get paid without fulfilling the criteria, but glad that you have!
This kind of thing is precisely why I am not doing any of these larger SUB offers until my float is FAR higher and I know for sure that I will have the necessary time in a given 7 day period to work my way thru the WR+0
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