888Sport Refund if Sanchez scores first

Money Back if Sanchez scores first. All qualifying bets on “First Goal Scorer” and “Correct Score” market up to £25.

Current odds for Sanchez First Goalscorer 5.0/5.4. Any ideas on how to do this best? Possibly an underlay?

Terms & Conditions

Offer is valid until Tuesday 13th December 2016 19:44:59 GMT. Any bets placed online after the start of the Everton vs Arsenal match will not qualify.
A qualifying bet is a pre-match ‘real money’ single of at least £1 placed on any “First Goal scorer” or “Correct Score” market.
Only the first qualifying bet placed on Everton vs Arsenal will qualify for this offer.
Maximum stake is £25, any additional stakes will not be eligible for a refund.
Qualifying bets must be placed individually on the bet slip.
Free Bet refunds will only be applied to qualifying losing bets if Alexis Sanchez scores first.
For new customers, this promotion is in addition to the welcome offer.
Refunds will be paid in free bet tokens.
Free bet tokens will be applied to qualifying accounts on 14th December 2016 (please allow up to 72 hours in extenuating circumstances).
Free bet tokens expire after 7 days.
Free bet stakes are not included in any returns.
Free bet tokens cannot be redeemed on each way bets or permutations.
Free bet tokens must be used in their entirety. They cannot be used to place a succession of smaller bets.
Free bet tokens cannot be combined with ‘real money’ stakes.
Member bet limits also apply to free bet placement.
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Big Mick 0 December 13, 2016 at 12:15 pm

If you read terms and conditions you only get refunded on losing bets if Sanchez scores first, therefore you don’t want to back Sanchez first goal scorer.

Treat it as a normal money back offer – try and find as close a match between back and lay as possible on one of the eligible markets – maybe easier done closer to kick off

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orlandosteve 2 December 13, 2016 at 2:32 pm

Normaly you could bet on a correct score with Arsenal not scoring (0), that way if Sanchez scores the first goal your bet has lost and you qualify for the freebet, with this guarantee you could then lay Sanchez to score the first goal at BF to guarantee profit with any outcome.

But in this case you will never get a profitable qualifying loss as a correct score with Arsenal not scoring will be stupid odds. I haven’t checked this BTW just summasing so I may be wrong…..

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skata 0 December 13, 2016 at 2:42 pm

nice bet

Thanks

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Burger Me 2 December 13, 2016 at 5:25 pm

Orlandosteve is correct; the best QL on correct score is £8.22 for Everton 1-0 (backing at 13, laying at 19). This gives effective odds of 2.43 that Sanchez scores first – but the betfair lay odds on him are 5.5. There’s no value in this offer.

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orlandosteve 2 December 13, 2016 at 7:29 pm

Just thinking about this now I’ve got some time-you could place your qualifying bet on a player other than Sanchez as FGS, This would ensure that if Sanchez scores first you will qualify for the for the free bet.

Place your qulyfying bet on Walcott FGS 6.4/7.6BF. Qualifying loss would be -£4.87

Possible outcomes

Sanchez scores first. +£20 (extracted from £25 FB)-£4.87=+£20.13
Sanchez doesn’t score first. -£4.87.

Risking £4.87 to win £20.13 gives you effective odds of 5.13, Since Sanchez to score the first goal is 5.8 this makes it a worthwhile bet.

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orlandosteve 2 December 13, 2016 at 8:07 pm

???

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Big Mick 0 December 13, 2016 at 8:12 pm

Good job Steve but not sure £20 – £4.87 = £20.13…just didn’t want your profit spreadsheet to be wrong ;) (promise I’m not bitter about not getting on the offer!)

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Oliver 0 December 13, 2016 at 8:20 pm

Also Steve, for future, having lower effective odds than a bookmaker is offering makes an offer non-profitable in the long run (also not bitter)

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sleepless 12 December 13, 2016 at 9:22 pm

Steve – did you take your own advice and put the bet on?.

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feltt1p 7 December 13, 2016 at 10:23 pm

Ha, thread cracks me up. Luckily it won, however…

£4.50 quali loss (ish)
£25 freebet is roughly £20 extraction
£20 – £4.50 = £15.50 ‘profit’ if Sanchez scores first

-£4.50 if not. (Essentially betting this)

£4.50 on Sanchez FGS at 5.8 = £21.60 ‘profit’

Hence punt is better value.

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orlandosteve 2 December 14, 2016 at 12:50 am

I did sleepless yes but after feltt1p comment I feel a little sheepish, I guess we become obsessed with FB’s and forget to think about the bigger picture. In my defence I usually convert FB at 88% using oddsmatcher free to access service so will make a little more than if I had just punted on Sanchez FGS.

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betman 41 December 14, 2016 at 8:08 am

Seaniemac were doing this including half time/full time but didn’t have chance to look at odds let alone post on here.
I find these offers hard work in weeding through the poor values to actually come across the good ones…… but alls well that ends well here as a profitable lesson was learnt!

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feltt1p 7 December 14, 2016 at 8:25 am

Yeah sorry Orlando, read through my post and it’s a little too blunt for my liking. Apologies. Plus I’ve made much worse mis-calculations than that so.

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orlandosteve 2 December 14, 2016 at 12:14 pm

No problem felt1p I’m pretty thick skinned, plus it’s worth the criticism for the advice, next time I will know to check the value both ways. Always learning.

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skata 0 December 14, 2016 at 9:10 pm

……….i bet on sanchez to score first goal on 888.. need to pay attention to the conditions next time

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