The bet and gets are pants for this festival, Lads, Sun and Sky 1st day only!

I think Zelzal has a great chance of placing, even winning.

Sky will no doubt do another money back offer or two, definitely on Saturday.

The others are just a waste of time anyway.

So many great arbs on the 335….bet365, betsafe, 188bet all going 1/4 odds too. Any more? Shame the best sites I seem heavily restricted on!

Zonderland still 66s at victor

Anyone who can get on at 365. Kool Kompany 38.5/11.5 on place arb now. Even 31/11.5 at sky and vic.

Zonderland is 67/65 and 14.2/6.8 at Sky/BF at the mo.

Can anybody actually get money on at Betsafe for the 15:35?

Also, those who know more than me. What’s the chances the win lay odds on Lightning Spear and above will come down closer to the off?

I mean, considering the prices this morning before being bloated by arbers. Closer to the off bookies will slash the prices on Lancaster and the like won’t they? So… will exchanges also come down you think?

Hope so feltip. Looks like it’s been trimmed across the board to 22 now so that should help.
Risk is if Lancaster bomber steams and support for Zelzal then lightning will drift again.

I’ve got a chunk to lay off on the win which I probably should now, but holding off for a couple more points shortening.

I’m tempted to lay Lightning Spear place now as its already a tasty arb.

Yeah I’ve no idea whether to hold off or not laying the win, obviously will wait on the place. I’m on the middle 5 for a fair whack each so please god don’t go to 2 places.

I’ll tell you what’d be nice, Lancaster to win but annihilate Ribchester in the process leading to stewards enquiry and demotion. But I don’t have the luck of the gods like some folk ;)

I’d lay any win bets now but hold off on laying the place. Zelzal was 2.36 drifted out to 2.56, on the way back now and currently 2.44. Not sure about lightning spear as he his a longer shot he may drift out.

*edit* Zelzal now 2.4. A lot of trading going on for a race that is 4 hours away.

Wait on the win part mate, I”m sure it will come in. I managed to lay off my Sky stake at 23/23 this morning but I took 21 elsewhere for a total of £30ew which in hindsight was poor judgement so I am also waiting.

I think as long as the two big boys don’t come in to ridiculously lows odds then it should be fine, as a drift on one in the middle will mean it coming in elsewhere.

Hoping for people to see sense that Churchill is crocked and it drifts wildly. (Note: I’m sure it isn’t, but can wish people think it is ;))