William Hill Djakadam & Thistlecrack double

Got an email off William Hill offering a double on both of these to win at 3/1 max £10. Checking the exchange the odds are 1.67 & 1.8, therefore, I assume I just lay them one by one, if someone could check my calculations I would appreciate it.

Lay £10.20 Djakadam liability of £6.83 – if it loses £10.20 *.98 = £10. Loss 0.

If it wins Lay (£10+£6.83)/.98 = £17.17 @1.8 = £13.74 – if it loses £17.17*.98 = £16.83 0 loss.

If it wins = £30 – £17.17 – £6.83 = £6?….meh not exactly great I guess, but profit is a profit odds might reduce also (could go up though i guess!) I think i’d be better just not laying or combining with channel 4 money back 2nd just as a back up!

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RyanB
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January 30, 2016 at 12:01 am

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Daniel B 0 January 30, 2016 at 12:43 am

if you are just underlaying them them one by one for a max profit you will make more than £6.

odds are 4.0 max 10 bet so £30 profit

lay £10.20 at odds of 1.7 and then 1.8 if the first horse wins – total liability for your two lays is approx £15. So if your two horses come in your making £15 not £6.

if im wrong correct me please

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MarkCorrigan 17 January 30, 2016 at 2:51 am

@RyanB

You’ve accidentally used the lay stake (£17.17) to calculate profit. The return, if it wins, should be = 30 – 13.74 – 6.83 = £9.43.

@Daniel B

Total liability is over £20 as you have to lay more on the second horse should the first horse win.

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Ice Magic 5 January 30, 2016 at 5:37 am

Hmmm might get on this as well.
If the first wins you can overlay the second for guarenteed profit. Just can’t calculate how much right now as baby is screaming

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Tony S 9 January 30, 2016 at 6:18 am

Annie Power will smash thistlecrack… Conjecture of course but make sure you get your lays on

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Tony 18 January 30, 2016 at 8:04 am

Thanks Ryan. Might just let it run myself.

Anyone know max bet?

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FoG_BLoG 61 January 30, 2016 at 8:15 am

Doesn’t mention a stake limit. Also beetle to score and win is 19/10 boosted to 3/1 too which is similar value. Not sure how you lay that though

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FoG_BLoG 61 January 30, 2016 at 8:18 am

Benteke not beetle.

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RyanB 16 January 30, 2016 at 8:38 am

Cheers for the help guys! much appreciated!

Well £9.83 is abit better, was tempted to not lay Djakadam and then only lay Thistlecrack as with the Sky offers etc today I don’t mind the potential £10 loss i guess not sure yet. The max stake is £10, im still awaiting to see the offer it states from 8:30am but its not there yet!

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RyanB 16 January 30, 2016 at 8:41 am

There is also quite alot of small price horses today, especially in the 2:40 Doncaster and therefore using Ladbrokes & WH should be able to get quite a few 2nd place refunds fingers crossed.

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FoG_BLoG 61 January 30, 2016 at 9:13 am

Ryan I put 13€ on the djakadam thistlecrack double. There is no mention of a stake limit on mobile at least.

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Tony 18 January 30, 2016 at 9:17 am

Use Betfair’s “To Score” market to lay, if there’s any liquidity, often isn’t

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FoG_BLoG 61 January 30, 2016 at 9:18 am

Ryan I put 13€ on the djakadam thistlecrack double. There is no mention of a stake limit on mobile at least.

Are ladbrokes doing money back 2nd?

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RyanB 16 January 30, 2016 at 9:22 am

The max is definitely £10. I tried putting more on and got the usual where it offers you the rest at the real odds….Ladbrokes ALWAYS do money back on 2nd, just wait until abit after half 9 and youll see their promotion go up, pretty confident on that. So im thinking if not laying Djakadam and placing him to win with Ladbrokes, that way I have 1st and 2nd covered and due to it being low odds im sure the qualifying loss will be low also.

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FoG_BLoG 61 January 30, 2016 at 9:40 am

Thanks on ladbrokes tip. I’ll keep an eye. I definitely have 13 on that double at 3/1 but maybe that’s because I’m in euros.

Sky bet have an offer on that djakadam race too. Money back if you lose.

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78naD 4 January 30, 2016 at 10:06 am

The max is 10 but your account is healthy Fog, I also got that 13 on, with 2 accounts. Keep that account healthy :-)

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