Business Secrets of the Pharaohs

  • I have decided to make this thread for several reasons. Matched betting sites are everywhere, they are all exact replicas of each other and are profiting from showing the basics to newcomers. Of course, the most recent case is Oddsmonkey jumping on the bandwagon – they had a great site and offered a unique odds searching service, but ruined it by relaunching as a matched betting site (offering nothing new). The other main reason is that this noticeboard has become slightly disillusioned with the quantity and speed of restrictions/bans.

    My opinion is that you are wasting your time tackling low return offers (and I will show you why below). I think the root of the problem may be that people often see matched betting as an investment of capital: “Oh, you can make £1000s with only a £200 starting bankroll”. That’s not quite true; you are also investing labour, and tackling low return offers results in an extremely low effective wage. Feel free to disagree, but I know that you can make more than Matt’s hypothetical profit of £13k (taking over two years) in as little as one month.

    I will attempt to break this thread into parts to make it easier to read over time, by revealing bookmaker weaknesses and inefficiencies.

    1. A topical site at the moment is Bet Bright. People are complaining of being restricted after attempting a couple of offers (win or lose). I signed up to Bet Bright several weeks ago and was banned within 3 days. How much did I make from them? £600. Bet Bright are extremely inefficient at pricing place markets for horse racing. They seem to price their place markets close to the off, with odds often being completely different to exchange odds. A few examples: I got several hundred pounds on (5 / 3.9), (3.3 / 2.7), (2.6 / 2.3)… The list goes on. If you pick your timing and don’t rush, you will certainly make a decent profit.

    2. Unibet/888/32Red/Stan James. Discussed before, but worth pointing out. These sites are extremely slow to update horse racing odds close to the off… I have no idea how they make a profit on these markets, especially as the odds move so rapidly on horses when the race approaches. A few people found the Unibet inefficiency last month and abused it in a suboptimal manner. They were betting at odds of 7 / 6 etc. and for small amounts. As with every bookmaker and their weakness, don’t rush it. Wait for the optimal moment and go big. There are times when I found 3 / 2.5 on these sites, with max bets of hundreds of pounds.

    3. BetFred / Totesport. I see the price boosts/pushes have become quite popular. The max bet is usually £100 on these offers, but depends on the status of your account. Why bet £100 on a great offer once every few days when you can bet hundreds of pounds on one offer? In order to do this, you need to double the boosted selection with other outcomes (e.g. low odds football matches). You can then lay off the second leg as usual – yet you’ve achieved a large exposure on the boost/value. I once effectively got £700 on a BetFred boost, when the odds were 3/2.7.

    I will continue to contribute to this thread with more inefficiencies when I have time. Perhaps others could contribute with their findings, but I doubt this will happen. When you find an inefficiency it’s quite tempting to keep it to yourself as you know it will disappear when it becomes public knowledge.

  • New to matched betting?

    My Matched Betting Academy is the best place to get started. Learning the fundamentals takes 10-15 minutes and you’ll make £15 in the process.

    Learning the fundamentals takes 10-15 minutes and you’ll make £15 in the process.

    Blue 3

    Mark, forgive them, for they know not what they do.

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    supert 8

    Some great points though by mark… Sky bet u.s. Got a horse 6.0 lay 2.75 bet fair, place market on b365 had horse 29.0 / 11.0 on bet fair… Only let me have £15 thou… Should have been £270 profit but overlaid to only make £20 … Horse came 3rd … Ouch… Owed £400 out of my £420
    Correct with Stan James too… Prices so slow to move, had one 13.0 that was 5.5 everywhere… Although account only lasted 1 week… Much more to be made from arbs than match betting folks.

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    perrybhoy 1

    There was no way I was abusive to you Mark. You got found out and now have gone in a huff. Good bye.

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    pbetts 5

    Perry your naive.

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    pbetts 5

    You’re [sic]

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    Pavlon 3

    If your [sic] going to be pedantic with yourself, pbetts, then this is an accurate example of ‘sic’.

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    CashedUp
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    So was Mark telling porkie pies?

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    Dave_Jones 12

    Well, I for one learned a great deal from many of Marks posts and I really hope he does not decide to stop posting on these forums. The information he provided on accas was excellent and enabled me to make some good money.

    I generally don’t pay a lot of attention to how much money people say they are making, what is more important is the information they are providing, and if that information can be useful to me to make some cash. I found the information Mark provided on these forums has been very useful.

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    patrick
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    Mark is certainly one of the best contributors to this site and I for one hope he returns in the not too distant future.

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    pbetts 5

    Pav, it’s before the minions jump on it ?

    Long live markCorrigan ?

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    Chris 24

    The methods “Mark” has posted certainly work but they are just basic arbing which anyone can do given a substantial amount of free time, he has just pointed out some of the bookies and markets that are inefficient i.e easier to arb.

    I do find it suspicious/funny that he constantly berates people for extracting small £10/25 profits here and there for what he claims are time intensive offers and then claims to have made £1000 profit after putting in £12,000 at Betbright. Firstly, that return only seems big to some of you because its a high number but its not at all huge. Secondly, to extract that much from arbing would take a huge amount of time to do, something Mark apparently did not have at his disposal, high flyer apparently.

    So yeah, these are hardly business “secrets”, just google guides to arbing and check out the many other forums online that point out bookies who price markets inefficiently. Mark has probably just copied and pasted from those.

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    beaser 8

    Well, I’ve found Mark’s posts useful and I’m grateful for any tips and ideas that others are decent enough to share.

    Matched betting is basically dead for me after being gubbed from everyone now. I’m gutted I joined it all late and couldn’t take advantage before the bookies all switched on to it so efficiently. Mustn’t grumble tho, as they have businesses to run after all.

    I’ve had just as much from Arbing now as I did matched betting, if not more. I do think less time needs to be spent on it as if you can get a big sum on the rewards are a lot bigger than free bets, plus you don’t have to piss around extracting from the FB. That said it does take a while to find the arbs that are actually worthwhile.

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    beaser 8

    As an aside I thought I’d also add that its disappointing that 90% of the posts on here now seem to degrade into a dick swinging contest within a couple of posts….

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    matchedbetting
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    I was tempted with a few arbs recently, I actually used Bet365 and I was quite worried as I didn’t want to get dubbed but it was a 20% return – Anyway, long story short I placed £1000 and made a £200 return, and then I done it again with a 19% arb. I never got gubbed and still doing matched betting offers – although I expect in the long run you’ll get gubbed.

    I was tempted to throw £10k down but scared of palps

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    Marv 2

    Matched, do you mind sharing a bit more as to what market that was on, I assume US horse racing?

    Naturally I not asking for any in depth detail

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