Business Secrets of the Pharaohs

  • I have decided to make this thread for several reasons. Matched betting sites are everywhere, they are all exact replicas of each other and are profiting from showing the basics to newcomers. Of course, the most recent case is Oddsmonkey jumping on the bandwagon – they had a great site and offered a unique odds searching service, but ruined it by relaunching as a matched betting site (offering nothing new). The other main reason is that this noticeboard has become slightly disillusioned with the quantity and speed of restrictions/bans.

    My opinion is that you are wasting your time tackling low return offers (and I will show you why below). I think the root of the problem may be that people often see matched betting as an investment of capital: “Oh, you can make £1000s with only a £200 starting bankroll”. That’s not quite true; you are also investing labour, and tackling low return offers results in an extremely low effective wage. Feel free to disagree, but I know that you can make more than Matt’s hypothetical profit of £13k (taking over two years) in as little as one month.

    I will attempt to break this thread into parts to make it easier to read over time, by revealing bookmaker weaknesses and inefficiencies.

    1. A topical site at the moment is Bet Bright. People are complaining of being restricted after attempting a couple of offers (win or lose). I signed up to Bet Bright several weeks ago and was banned within 3 days. How much did I make from them? £600. Bet Bright are extremely inefficient at pricing place markets for horse racing. They seem to price their place markets close to the off, with odds often being completely different to exchange odds. A few examples: I got several hundred pounds on (5 / 3.9), (3.3 / 2.7), (2.6 / 2.3)… The list goes on. If you pick your timing and don’t rush, you will certainly make a decent profit.

    2. Unibet/888/32Red/Stan James. Discussed before, but worth pointing out. These sites are extremely slow to update horse racing odds close to the off… I have no idea how they make a profit on these markets, especially as the odds move so rapidly on horses when the race approaches. A few people found the Unibet inefficiency last month and abused it in a suboptimal manner. They were betting at odds of 7 / 6 etc. and for small amounts. As with every bookmaker and their weakness, don’t rush it. Wait for the optimal moment and go big. There are times when I found 3 / 2.5 on these sites, with max bets of hundreds of pounds.

    3. BetFred / Totesport. I see the price boosts/pushes have become quite popular. The max bet is usually £100 on these offers, but depends on the status of your account. Why bet £100 on a great offer once every few days when you can bet hundreds of pounds on one offer? In order to do this, you need to double the boosted selection with other outcomes (e.g. low odds football matches). You can then lay off the second leg as usual – yet you’ve achieved a large exposure on the boost/value. I once effectively got £700 on a BetFred boost, when the odds were 3/2.7.

    I will continue to contribute to this thread with more inefficiencies when I have time. Perhaps others could contribute with their findings, but I doubt this will happen. When you find an inefficiency it’s quite tempting to keep it to yourself as you know it will disappear when it becomes public knowledge.

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    Learning the fundamentals takes 10-15 minutes and you’ll make £15 in the process.

    Sy 3

    @Beaser, couldn’t agree more. Even though there are few decent folk on here, There are way too many people that bring down the tone and like to stroke their own ego’s and bring other people down. Of course some of that is people messing around which is fine by me.

    I personally found Marks posts quite refreshing. But as he stated himself, he is gubbed everywhere so he naturally went down this path and shared his findings with others which might I add he didn’t have to do . I’ll take that any day over the same people boasting about what they made that day and keeping everything to themselves.

    Is he the god of matchbetting? Probably not but he knew a lot about the industry and that’s a useful person to have around regardless
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    @Marv – I used the following bookies: coral, bet victor, bet365 and ladbrokes. Surprisingly, it was on something I’d never even betted on before ‘Womans volleyball’ (would of been a good one to watch ha) and a tennis match.

    I paid in to a service to find me the arbs, but I think if I were to bet on these several times in a week they’d ban me. Also, with such high returns I was at risk of the bookies calling a palp and losing my money. I just couldn’t resist it though.

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    Dave_Jones 12

    @matchedbetting, I think putting 10K on a big arb that could possibly be declared a palp it just too big a risk unless you are a really big hitter, and really big hitters have moved beyond matchedbetting the offers a long time ago.

    I can understand the attraction of trying to make a lot of money really quickly before your account is gubbed, restricted or even closed. Mark has mentioned this too, I think at one time taking slow but steady profits and hence keeping under the bookies radar was the way forward.

    Now however that strategy doesn’t seem to work at least not at a lot of bookies anyway, so maybe hitting them for a lot of money over a very short period of time is the way forward as Mark advocates.

    Still 10K as I mentioned above is for most people a lot of money to risk on one bet and you could loose the lot.

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    Yeh, I’d probably stay away from the £10k bets… it’s too risky. But £1000, to make £200 in one bet is quite attractive. Its the trade off though, if it going to get your account limited then it’s a decision you have to call. However, if your account is already limited it maybe worth doing it. Like I mentioned, I hit some well known bookies with my two arbs, betting on tennis to which I’ve never placed a bet before, and volleyball.

    The problem I think,is using a paid member service to find the arbs, you’re going to have lots of people all betting on the same thing at once – because these arbs don’t last for too long. So, that may ring alarm bells.

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    Pickle 64

    Tennis = Massive risk depending on market and various bookies retirement rules. Someone posted on here a while ago they lost both bets on a tennis match due to a player retiring and different retirement rules. Main reason ive never touched tennis.

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    Dave_Jones 12

    Agree with Pickle re tennis, make sure the bookie your using has the same rules regarding retirements as the exchange you are using otherwise you can end up loosing a lot of money.

    Betting £1k to win £200 does indeed sound very attractive, and if your using gubbed accounts anyway then you don’t really have much to loose anyway, good luck and I hope you get away with it for some time.

    I did something similar with a gubbed Ladbrokes account, but I very quickly found my bets restricted, if memory serves correctly only managed a couple of arbs and then was restricted to tiny bets.

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    deathstar 39

    just to add, be very careful with tennis, BUT dutching with two like minded bookies is ok. for example, vernons and betway have the same rules and have both been offering 5th set MBS (£25 for betway and £50 for vernons) so as long as the match goes to a 5th set you’re guaranteed at least a £25 freebie. Hopefully they will both continue for Wimbledon.

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    Tony C
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    What a thread. Replying so newbies who haven’t seen this thread read it.

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